Posted by JD Seller on January 24, 2015 at 17:27:11 from (208.126.198.123):
In Bryce's post below he is trading for an IH "H" tractor. There where 391,227 of them made and the shipping weight was 3800 lbs. So it would be heavier than his little Oliver crawler as he has weight it.
What I found humorous is how many told him how great a IH "H" was as far as a tractor. I always thought they where under powered (24 hp) and geared way too high for much practical farm work. They did make a fairly good tractor for the hay rake. In just about any type of field work they where not great at all.
Now you could say the IH "M" was a great tractor as they did have many more uses. There where 270,140 of them made and with the additional HP (36 hp)they were a much more handy all around farm tractor.
They both lacked a factory three point and that limited there use in many places. I know there are after market three point hitches available but that is not a full three point in that you do not have draft control for plow work.
Now here is the thing that may surprise some of you after reading all of this and knowing I run mostly JD stuff. I would rather run a IH H or M over the JD tractors of the same age. The hand clutch is just a MAJOR PAIN!!!!
I started out farming with a JD "G" as my only tractor. Try working on that KILLER for 12-16 hours working ground and tell me how great that hand clutch is. Try backing a wagon into a barn with a hand clutch and a road gear reverse.
JD did not make a tractor worth having on the farm to work with until the new Generation tractors in 1960. Even then the 3010 and 4010 where the only really good one of that lot. The 1010 and 2010 where not reliable and the 5010 had engine issues and was as heavy boat anchor at factory HP.
If IH management had been even close to as good as their equipment was they would have been the "BIG" boy on the block still today.
The New Generation/30 series JD tractors leaped JD ahead of IH right when IH started having serious money and management troubles.
Jump ahead to today when many of the tractors of yesterday are just hobby and collector tractors. The IH "H" and "M" are just not high value tractors as there where too many made and many still survived. Then add in the lack of three point and power steering not being common it makes them not be attractive to many in the tractor market of today. Now the IH "H" usually sells the same as the IH "M" because many like them being lighter so they can haul them easier.
I see IH "M" and "H" sell privately and at auctions. They are usually in that $1000-2000 price range if running. Even fancy trailer queens rarely break $2500 now.
So just my random thoughts on some OLD IRON.
This post was edited by JD Seller at 17:40:32 01/24/15.
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