Re: Re: Another look at it all - farmers don't take it wrong

Posted by paul on November 08, 2001 at 10:12:48 from (209.23.145.10):

In Reply to: Re: Another look at it all - farmers don't take it wrong posted by Steve W on November 08, 2001 at 07:08:16:

I agree, Steve. But it does kinda suck when it's
the big farms that caused the problem mostly,
and you're the small farm that is getting
regulated out of business because of it - don't
you think? I certainly understand it is the
dynamics of society that is 'getting' us. The
government is, after all, 'us'.

I do find it ironic that much farming in the uSA
will be curtailed - where we could deal with
protecting the enviornment & such.
Meanwhile, our agriculture will shift to 3rd
world countries, where virgin lands will be
ripped up & used to produce cheap food. If the
nutcase enviornmental groups would ever
think, maybe they could think globally & see
that the end result of their goofball goals will
actually make a worse world to live in, while
the USA will have less agriculture, it will also
have less security. I see no gain to anyone
from it all.

Manure is just plant growth that is decaying
after passing through an animal. If we don't
farm the land, the same plant growth dies
each year on the land, and decays - same
thing? The laws 'controlling' manure have
really gone off the deep end. Or an urban
example - you shouldn't burn your leaves
when you rake them - gives off too much
pollution!!!! Ah, but when you composte them,
they release pretty much the same stuff into
the atmosphere - a little slower, but same
difference in 2 years time. Seems like
nonsense.

With the govt regulations, they think one size
fits all. A 4000 unit hog operation needs an
$80,000 manure containment system. A
small, 50 head cattle feedlot only used 1/2 the
time (cattle on pasture 1/2 the year) also
needs an $80,000 manure confinement
system. Well, actually, a berm thrown up with
a plow, costing $25, would do the trick in this
case, but no - the $80,000 system is what's
required.

Well, this is a very big topic, dear to my heart,
and not really appropriate 'here'. So I'll stop
now. Farmers had it pretty good the past 50
years, with the general public behind us &
willing to help us. I guess it's time to pay the
piper and have the public not understand
farming at all, and mess us up a bit.

--->Paul

Follow Ups:

• Re: Re: Re: Another look at it all - farmers don't take it wrong Steve W 12:10:12 11/08/01 (6)
  • Re: Re: Re: Re: Another look at it all - farmers don't take it wrong paul 14:21:20 11/08/01 (4)
    • Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Another look at it all - farmers don't take it wrong Terry Nelson 20:56:11 11/10/01 (0)
    • Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Another look at it all - farmers don't take it wrong Steve W 05:40:08 11/09/01 (2)
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