Re: 8N starter solenoid, again

Posted by Dell (WA) on July 31, 2007 at 22:32:37 from (172.135.38.41):

In Reply to: 8N starter solenoid, again posted by Jeff L. on July 31, 2007 at 19:55:22:

Jeff........yer overthinkin', cut-itt outt (grin)

You write......."By the way, my IT manual and Operator's Manual both refer to the "starter relay". Is that in fact the same as the solenoid? I guess so, but why confuse the terminology??.......yes, relays are "lite-duty" and solenoids are "heavy-duty". Is switching 150amps lite duty or heavy duty???

You write......"Side question: some folks on line refer to the "Bendix" which I have divined is the same (yes?) as the "starter drive". Terminology confusion again!".......yes, same animal, do you ask for Kleenex or soft tissue paper for yer drizzlin' snozzle??? Bendix developed the retractable screw drive for starters.

You write......"looking on line I don't see a complete starter & drive unit, but are sold separately.....yep, they're sold seperately.....Ok to re-use the old Bendix with a new or rebuilt starter?".......unless yer drive is less than 1-yr old, byte the bullet and gitt the new modern "CLUTCH" style starter drive to go with yer rebuilt starter motor.

You write......." Any tricks to removing/installing the "Bendix", if necessary?" .......gently clamp yer starter shaft UPSIDE-DOWN innna vise and with yer armpit squeeze down on the spring-loaded drive so you expose the roll-pin, then take a punch (nail) and gently hammer yer roll-pin out of yer starter motor shaft. Simple, eh?

When you re-install yer drive, taper (grind, file) yer roll-pin end so it wedges itself into the shaft hole against the spring pressure; then hammer it home with punch. Simple, eh?

Yer starter problem as you've described is NOT the starter motor or solenoid, it yer weaksister battery cables. They gitt invisable corrosion inside the molded clamp and onlyway to fix is by replacement. New 1/0 (one-ought) thick as yer thumb battery cable $10 (cheap) Also replace yer braided ground cable with new 11-in flatbraid ground cable ($10, cheap) bolted to one of yer steering box tranny bolts. NOT to rusty sheetmetal battery bracket attach points.

Then the "secret"......(don't tell ennyone) before you install yer starter motor, WIRE-BRUSH the endplate of yer starter motor and the tranny mounting hole, yer starter motor will ZING.......the dirty pitts Dell

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