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Re: Did some investigating today....again


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Posted by Rich_WI on March 08, 2015 at 18:18:31 from (50.50.95.159):

In Reply to: Did some investigating today....again posted by Texasmark1 on March 08, 2015 at 09:00:48:

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Well that makes sense then. See, here is the problem, you are proclaiming that Fram is getting a bad rap and you are basing it on anecdotal evidence and then you try to prove the quality of the Fram filter as its made RIGHT NOW. You are looking at a different filter than what gave the bad reputation to begin with. Judging by the pictures you posted, that Fram is not the same as the Extra Gaurd filter that Fram made for years, probably decades... which I feel gave them a bad reputation. The one you are posting pictures of looks like an Tough Gaurd filter, which was a premium filter some years ago. IIRC, it was twice as expensive as a standard Extra Gaurd filter. Even back then, the Tough Gaurd filter was considered "OK" but certainly not the filter that earned Fram the nickname of Orange Can of Death.

To prove my theory, you would need to fully take apart the filter and measure the media, then compair the full details with known older filters. That would tell you if in fact, the current Extra Gaurd is now being built the same way that the Tough Gaurds were years ago. Just remember, as I have said in all of these oil filter talks, whatever you learn will only be as good as today, if you like how a filter is built, buy the lifetime supply NOW for that vehicle because manufactors can and will change how they are built.

One place you can reference older filters is looking at older posts online. Here is one, it covers a ton of filters around 1999 or there abouts. http://www.minimopar.net/oilfilters/reference.html#fram That site is how I learned about how poor a quality of a filter the Fram is. I had a Chrysler with a 2.2 and I was googling why I have valve noise on start-up. Turns out it was a well known issue with Fram filters on engines where the filter mounts other than threads at the top. Oil would leak out and you got valve noise till the filter filled up and let the oil flow. I changed filters to a non-fram, problem went away. If you were using the old style of Extra Gaurd, you were getting dry starts too, just couldnt hear it. But just because you couldnt hear it doesnt mean there wasnt damage and it didnt happen, the deficiencies of the Fram filter is well known and all over the internet, almost since Al Gore invented it. People dont hate on Fram because its fun, they do because its true. You should do some more research before you blindly defend Fram, they aint worth sticking up for, they built garbage for years and years, relying on marketing to keep them afloat. In fact, depending on what you find out, it could be proof that the internet and people showing whats in the deadly orange can put pressure on Fram to change things (making the premium Tough Gaurd that was OK into the standard Extra Gaurd).

Good luck in your search, the information is out there, all you have to do is look for it.


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