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BobOHIO

12-07-2006 19:11:36




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I went to Sears and bought a digital meter. Also a receptacle tester with three small lights that diagnose recept problems. I plugged it into an outlet and didn't light at all. Checked them with meter and read 1 volt. Went down to fuse box. It has two sets of main fuses (4 cartridges) and I pulled them. On the one set I got readings of 120 volts and 109 volts. The other set was 0 volts for both. Would that mean the problem is in the meter or box? The small audible tester still beeps at all switches etc, but meter shows 1 volt. At this point I know I'm over my head and they will need a professional, but I'm curious about my findings. I really appreciate all of your help and great knowledge of information. Bob

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MarkB_MI

12-07-2006 20:13:28




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 Re: Circuit tester update in reply to BobOHIO, 12-07-2006 19:11:36  
Bob,

It's hard to follow what you were measuring. Were you measuring from the hot to ground or hot to neutral? Or were you measuring across the vacant fuse contacts?

If you are reading from hot to neutral, readings of 120 on one phase and 109 on the other would indicate a bad connection on the phase that's reading 109 volts. Please read my earlier post and make all the measurements I suggested. If you're not sure what's what, then you would be wise to leave it to a licensed electrician.

A reading of 1 volt rms on a digital multimeter is probably noise, indicating an open circuit. The input impedance of the meter is so high that it will measure voltage just from the noise picked up by the wiring. The receptacle tester has a lower input impedance and requires a certain amount of voltage to operate. Understand, however, that the purpose of the receptacle tester is NOT to determine if the circuit will provide adequate current. It is only meant to check that the receptacle has proper polarity and is grounded.

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BobOHIO

12-08-2006 05:24:43




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 Re: Circuit tester update in reply to MarkB_MI, 12-07-2006 20:13:28  
Hi Mark- I was measuring across the vacant fuse contacts.



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MarkB_MI

12-08-2006 15:16:15




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 Re: Circuit tester update in reply to BobOHIO, 12-08-2006 05:24:43  
Hi Bob,

If you were reading across the two contacts for a single fuse, then you were not making a meaningful measurement. All voltage measurements must be made to a reference, usually neutral or ground (which should be the same).

In the case of reading across the fuse contacts, you can get readings anywhere from zero to 120 volts, but they are totally meaningless. For example, if all the loads on that phase are turned off, you would read zero volts, regardless of whether or not you have power. Turn on one load, though, and you'll read 120 volts even if there is a bad connection in the circuit.

I recommend you call an electrician on this. I'm afraid you're going to hurt yourself.

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BobOHIO

12-09-2006 17:57:06




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 Re: Circuit tester update in reply to MarkB_MI, 12-08-2006 15:16:15  
Hi Mark- I think you're right about getting help. I do appreciate all of your advice. You gave me some good info and I learned some new things. I will leave this to a professional. Thanks again. Bob



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