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Mitchissippi

12-28-2004 21:03:49




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I honestly hadn't thought about how this project would / might affect my insurance. But since y'all have brought it up, here's a little more info - and I'm not saying any of this will make any difference - just looking for well founding advise.

My work shop is an enclosed 8 x 22 on one end of an open, semi-detacted carport. The structure is 10 feet away from my house and is connected a 10 foot wide roof and wooden steps.

The spray booth I was thinking of constructing is something like a 36" x 36" x 36" to be used to paint 1/16th scale toy tractors. I need some advice on choosing a fan motor / vent piping arrangement.

As for the paint I use, I use enamel rattle cans from JD or CaseIH.

I'll look into this insurance deal. I ain't against building a separate structure. Something like a 8 foot x 8 foot walk-in, free-standing outhouse. Could even put in a better ventilation system.

Hmmm . . . the more I think about it, the more questions I have.

Oh well, . . . ice cream time!

Mitch

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CNKS

12-29-2004 06:27:34




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 Re: More details and ideas in reply to Mitchissippi, 12-28-2004 21:03:49  
For the type booth you are talking about, just do a search for "paint booths", or "hobby paint booths", etc. I came across several such sites when I was researching mine. You can buy small bench type booths for about $1500, maybe less for the size you want, I don't remember the price; your search will bring those up too. As to insurance, I not sure your insurance company cares how big or small it is, just don't blow it up. Many people have done what you plan to do. There are also hobby discussion forums on that topic. I am not sure you will be able to find an explosion proof fan for a booth that small, I have 2-16" ones that are variable speed, manufacturer is Jenny. Specifications vary, but I believe the OSHA spec is 150 ft/min for that size booth. The size fan you need for a 3x3 opening is simply 3x3x150 = 1350 cu ft/minute. One of my fans, being variable speed, will meet that spec, I don't know if this is applicable to your situation. The fan is $500+. Jenny also makes a single speed for about $400 that may be too large. I don't know. I would not pay much attention to what Jenny tells you about what you need as they don't know a thing about spray booths, even though they make fans. They will give you numbers for a "spray room", or a place where you spray, but it is not a booth -- the numbers according to their formula are wrong. HOWEVER, for what you want to do with rattle cans, a fan in your room, or a spray room, may be sufficient, since you are not spraying large volumes of paint. With a spray gun, no. There are also sealed fans where the wiring is covered, technically these are not rated explosion proof. The motors on mine are enclosed in heavy gauge steel, the wiring, while probably not rated explosion proof, is run through black plumbing pipe into the walls. There are no exposed wires. There is no way my fans can cause an explosion or fire, the ignition source must come from someplace else. The booth also needs to be grounded. You should also consider static electricity. Having said all this, for what you are doing, I'm not sure you need anything. Unless you are spraying constantly, just wear a charcoal mask, turn off your heat, spray, and open a window. As the saying goes, "I have now told you more than I know.".

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Mitchissippi

12-29-2004 07:28:03




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 Re: More details and ideas in reply to CNKS, 12-29-2004 06:27:34  
Thanks for the info. I'm searching the hobby sites now. If I ever get around to building a real shop for real tractors, I'd like to include a spray booth. My first concern is saftey.

Mitch



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dr.sportster

12-29-2004 09:11:52




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 Re: More details and ideas in reply to Mitchissippi, 12-29-2004 07:28:03  
CNKS is correct stating that plenty of us have done home paint jobs without incidence or disaster.Everyone on these forums likes to caution others about saftey hazards,however,to a degree we are all risk takers.Im just saying the paints toxic[hardener]the stink goes everywhere,overspray goes everywhere.[The dry product is almost nontoxic]and the heated pro booth at my local body shop does beautiful results at a good price.The worse thing that can happen is an explosion.How often this happens I dont know.Maybe very rarely but it is a risk.

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Mitchissippi

12-29-2004 10:54:35




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 Re: More details and ideas in reply to dr.sportster, 12-29-2004 09:11:52  
I do agree with you. And I DO appreciate all the posts concerning saftey. I ain't above being educated!



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paul

12-29-2004 12:45:17




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 Re: More details and ideas in reply to Mitchissippi, 12-29-2004 10:54:35  
This sure has turned into a friendly & interesting thread. Sometimes we all go a little overboard one way or the other (electrical questions often go that way - so why can't I interchange the ground & nuetral wires???? :), nice to see good solid suggestions & links, without a lot of gnashing teeth. :)

--->Paul



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Mitchissippi

12-30-2004 05:32:48




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 Well, it's Christmas . . . . in reply to paul, 12-29-2004 12:45:17  
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