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Installing a wood furnace.......Chimney troubl

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buickanddeere

08-13-2004 07:19:34




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May get away with a stainless chimney liner? Either that or live in a 50F house wearing a sweater and heavy socks. Beats going broke or burring to death. One of the biggest problems with wood burning equipment is stoking the fire and operation of the draft/dampers. As throwing a stick of wood in the fire every 1-3 hours is a nuisance. The fire box gets crammed to the top with wood and the draft checked back until the fire smolders instead of burning clean. In the hopes of fuel only 2-4 times a day. If you want a stick of would to burn slower. Throw in a bigger piece that hasn�t been split. Burns far slower than a same size split piece. Now all that wood in a hot enclosed space with limited oxygen. The stove has turned into a wood gasification unit instead of a burner. The heat drives the unburned flammable gasses up the stack. Now that stack is loaded with creosote, may as well be coated with high temp grease. Sooner or later during very cold weather or when the draft is opened during/after fueling. The stack temp will rise high enough along with having available oxygen�����woof. Now that makes a blowtorch in the stack. The brick and firebrick will be heat stressed and perhaps crack. Steel will go soft by 1500F. And if that doesn't burn the place down perhaps the flying spark form the stack will ignite something else. I warned my father for years that flue draft limiting damper in the oil/wood furnace was chilling the chimney. Along with his over filling the fire box and closing the draft tight. Told me he'd been burning wood for 70+ years and he knew what he was doing. As the oil was rarely used, I jammed the oil damper closed and for years he didn't notice. One day he did notice and said it was there for a reason but when asked he didn't know why. I also made certain the existing smoke detectors worked and added a couple more. I didn't find out for weeks but eventually found out after I noticed he has removed the oil draft damper in place of a straight pipe. Then they admitted having the fire department out for a chimney fire. Afterwards & unknown to anyone I glued a couple of washer spacers on the unseen side of the draft control lid into the furnace firebox. This always allows some air in for cleaner combustion. And keeps them from over fueling the furnace now that the house gets too hot. The fire burns clean now with little noticeable smoke instead of a smoldering smudge pile.

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T_Bone

08-14-2004 15:30:05




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 Re: Installing a wood furnace.......Chimney troub in reply to buickanddeere, 08-13-2004 07:19:34  
Hi BD,

Yep, same thing my Dad did, load the box with green wood with alot of sap, start the fire and dampen the flue as soon as the fire started.

This caused creosote to build up on the flue walls 1/2" thick and when the creosote caught fire it burnt off in chunks from the steam (not enough water at one time) then shot out of the stack like a cannon.

This is my 16th year on my current chimney. I awlays start a fire letting it burn as hot as it can get for the first 20min as this burns off any creosote build up from the previous day(s) use.

In 16yrs I"ve never had to clean the flue. I do take the chimney apart each year for inspection.

T_Bone

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Fred OH

08-16-2004 08:17:47




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 Re: Installing a wood furnace.......Chimney troub in reply to T_Bone, 08-14-2004 15:30:05  
This subject came up at mom's house one day and my aunt mentioned that they always threw a hand full of salt in their stove once a week to take care of the cresote. Anyone else ever heard of using salt? I think I've heard old timers say they used something called brimstone. I haven't done any research on either of these...anyone else care to? Fred OH



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paul

08-17-2004 14:20:24




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 Re: Installing a wood furnace.......Chimney troub in reply to Fred OH, 08-16-2004 08:17:47  
I too think it is way too corosive to putz with salt.

I"ve heard of putting an aluminimn can in the fire box every once in a while, have no clue if it actually does anything.

They make a product you toss in the flame every few weeks, one for wood, one for oil burners, to take down the coatings some.

--->Paul



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T_Bone

08-16-2004 09:52:51




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 Re: Installing a wood furnace.......Chimney troub in reply to Fred OH, 08-16-2004 08:17:47  
Hi Fred,

I would think salt would be super corresive?

Wood ash and water make lye so throwing in some salt should really eat up some metal...lol

There was a product called Red Devil or Blue Devil (I have no idea what it was) that looked like copper sulfate, that when added to the fire would also cause cerosote not to stick to the flue wall.

My kids like watching the flame when I added it as it would change the flames all different colors.

T_Bone

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