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Hey Shep, got a ?

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FormerlyPaMike

11-26-2005 17:05:24




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I was looking through the tractor pictures and saw your 1855 with a grabber on the loader. I am in the preocess of doing that to my 1755. Did you add a third remote? I cant add a third on mine cause the cab is too narrow, so I might go with a multiplier. Also, do you REALLY thing it is needed to update the axle. I kinda dont want to deal with the hassle, but I really dont want to break an axle.
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Shep VA

11-27-2005 09:28:52




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 Re: Hey Shep, got a ? in reply to FormerlyPaMike, 11-26-2005 17:05:24  
My loader works off a joystick and it is plumbed into the hydraulic system off the pump, so both my remotes are free and I just ran the hugger off of a remote. They do make joysticks that have the third remote, but I havent decided to get one yet. I always suggest running loaders off of a joystick or a valve system and not off your remotes, you have so much more control and power, you will never go back if you ever change one....

You can try running your axle and see what happens, I ran mine for about two years until I got tired of changing wheel bearings every 6 months. My 1855 would tear up wheel bearings, blow front tires, and the steering motor under the radiator is still very worn and does not steer well at road speed and leaks because of the abuse we put it through. I need to replace the entire steering box sometime. The heavier axle and bigger tires has helped a lot, but it still gets a lot of abuse. That hugger puts the weight further out in front of the tractor and that is even harder on the front axle. Plus plowing around in the mud and snow with a 2000# plus bale on the front in the winter trying to feed doesnt help it much either. I really need a 4x4 tractor to feed with. Hmmmmm I smell another project coming on..... Or maybe that is the smell of the skellitt heading my way....

Oh well.....

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FormerlyPaMike

11-27-2005 17:35:01




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 Re: Hey Shep, got a ? in reply to Shep VA, 11-27-2005 09:28:52  
Did your joystick come with the loader? I take it you tapped into the hard steel line that runs on top of and behind the hydraulic resovior? Where did you plumb the return line? I was thinking of hooking the loader up like you did, but I couldnt figure out a clean way to do it. Also, what exactly did you change on your axle? You actually changed the spindles and the horizontal tube that they slide into?
Thanks for all your help.

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FormerlyPaMike

11-27-2005 17:35:09




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 Re: Hey Shep, got a ? in reply to Shep VA, 11-27-2005 09:28:52  
Did your joystick come with the loader? I take it you tapped into the hard steel line that runs on top of and behind the hydraulic resovior? Where did you plumb the return line? I was thinking of hooking the loader up like you did, but I couldnt figure out a clean way to do it. Also, what exactly did you change on your axle? You actually changed the spindles and the horizontal tube that they slide into?
Thanks for all your help.

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Shep VA

11-27-2005 17:45:58




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 Re: Hey Shep, got a ? in reply to FormerlyPaMike, 11-27-2005 17:35:09  
Yeah, the joystick came with the loader set up. I plumbed in on the steel line on the back of the tractor for the pressure and then returned it to a port on the back right of the tractor. If you are standing behind the tractor there is a half inch hydraulic drain on the bottom right of the system.

On my axle I put a 2255 axle tubes into the center axle housing on the 1855. DONT DO THIS, it doesnt work. The axle halves for the 2255 are about 1/4 of an inch larger round than the 1855s are and I had to have them lathed down. It really was not worth it to do this. I would probably look into putting an 8 bolt wheatland axle or the entire 2255 axle, bolster and all under your tractor.

Good luck

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FormerlyPaMike

11-28-2005 04:41:02




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 Re: Hey Shep, got a ? in reply to Shep VA, 11-27-2005 17:45:58  
Thanks for all the information...More to think about and even more to do....looks like I will have to dig around for a joystick and valve to use...they get a little expensive...guess the girlfriend will have to go without a Christmas present this year...



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Don-Wi

11-27-2005 07:47:33




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 Re: Hey Shep, got a ? in reply to FormerlyPaMike, 11-26-2005 17:05:24  
We had a loader on our 1755 before it puked, and we had some axel troubles also, but not always while doing loader work. The first time I was plowing and the outside tire got caught in the furrow while going around a tree stump, and it snapped the axel pin. The second time was w/ a big square on the spears, the axel on the smae side folded underneath after it snapped the pin. The third time was on the other side. I broke through some thick ice, dropped about a foot and snapped another pin.

There should be a third slot by the hyd. levers, a little bit above if I remember right. You could add a control arm in there. Otherwise, the best way to go is a seperate 3 spool control just for the loader. Running off the remotes works, but there are better ways to do it. I never did like it when our loader was run off the rear remotes.
Donovan from Wisconsin

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olhapa

11-28-2005 08:56:33




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 Re: Hey Shep, got a ? in reply to Don-Wi, 11-27-2005 07:47:33  
Shep, if it isnt too much of a bother, could post some pictures of your 1855 loader plumbing set up? I too am looking at mounting a loader, but would like to use controls other than the two levers on the side. Thanks for posting this information.



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Shep Va

11-28-2005 10:00:05




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 Re: Hey Shep, got a ? in reply to olhapa, 11-28-2005 08:56:33  
Yeah, I can get some pictures of that sometime. The starter motor on that tractor is giving me some trouble and I got a new one today so it will be in the shop here in a few weeks and I will snap some pictures of it then. It is really a simple set up and it works great.

Remind me here in a few weeks if I forget.....



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