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Re: 2010 fuel problem (gas)

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Bob

12-28-2006 17:01:58




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Looks like there is a tank vent... could your's be clogged? (Key #'s 11 and 12 extend the vent down, away from the tank.) (Is this the correct diagram for your tractor, and is it still set up like this... with NO additional filter, some of which don't work well in a gravity system?)

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Otherwise, there must be a piece of crud blocking the fuel flow intermittantly at the tank fitting, the sediment bowl, or one of the elbows.

(Are you SURE the carb runs out of gas, and you're not loosing spark?)

(Be safe while doing this)... Remove the carburetor bowl drain plug, and see how well the gas flows into a catch bucket... there should be a quick flow of about 1/2 cup or so of gas, as the bowl drains, then a steady flow, as the gas flows into the carb through the inlet valve needle and seat. It's hard to quantify that flow, but it must be enough to sustain the engine at full speed/load.

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Double M

12-28-2006 18:19:29




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 Re: 2010 fuel problem (gas) in reply to Bob, 12-28-2006 17:01:58  
Bob,

WOW! I'm impressed. I didn't know it was possible to post drawings like that.
1. Mine is not set up that way, someone probably changed it long before I got it. In fact it doesn't even have a sediment bowl on it. The fuel line connects to the cut off valve which is integral with the strainer. Then runs to an aftermarket filter located 2 inches from where the line goes into the carb.
2. I have not seen a tank vent like the one in the drawing. I have tried running it with the cap off and it does not seem to make a difference.
3. I'm certain it's a fuel problem. I have checked the flow with the engine off. To do this I disconnected the line from the carb and there seems to be plenty of flow. It is as if the engine is using more than is available. In fact when the engine starts to show signs of cutting out I can watch the fuel level in the filter diminish until there is none visible just as the engine dies.
4. I did flush the tank when I removed the strainer/cut off valve.

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John VB

12-29-2006 05:30:10




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 Re: 2010 fuel problem (gas) in reply to Double M, 12-28-2006 18:19:29  
If the fuel level in the filter starts to drop, the filter is not getting enough fuel. Check everything between the filter and the tank. Make sure you have good flow up to the point of the filter.



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Bob

12-28-2006 19:11:31




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 Re: 2010 fuel problem (gas) in reply to Double M, 12-28-2006 18:19:29  
Likely, the in-line filter isn't working well on the gravity system. It's a pleated paper element, right?

(The diagram is linked from JDPARTS, and I didn't notice a serial # break with the vent system. I have a 2010 in the shop right now, but it's a diesel, so looking at it's fuel system won't prove anything.)

Can you go to a sediment bowl sytem like it originally had?

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Double M

12-28-2006 19:18:04




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 Re: 2010 fuel problem (gas) in reply to Bob, 12-28-2006 19:11:31  
I think the sediment bowl set up is the right thing to do. Any idea where to get the parts?



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Bob

12-28-2006 19:27:21




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 Re: 2010 fuel problem (gas) in reply to Double M, 12-28-2006 19:18:04  
Deere still has the sediment bulb (# AR51418) @ nearly $55.00, but I would think a local farm supply store, or internet site (perhaps this very one) would have them a bit more reasonbly priced!

The tank shutoff valve, # AT36766, is still available, too, as well as at least some of the lines and fittings.



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Double M

12-28-2006 19:32:35




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 Re: 2010 fuel problem (gas) in reply to Bob, 12-28-2006 19:27:21  
Thanks



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