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JD green(Vermeer R21)?????????

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Tx Jim

06-26-2005 12:05:07




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Hay dr,are you saying that VERMEER sold rakes to JD way back when this bogus test was conducted.You stated VERMEER R 21 in test,surely with all your knowledge and facts you would know that the first "green" Vermeer(JD) rake was not an R 21.Next the rake in this test according to you could have been a JD 704(made by Tonnuti.Oh I also know that Vermeer made balers for Massey and Vermeer makes trenchers, I have been associated with agri. equipment since an early age so you can show your pictures to someone else. Facts are facts/fiction is fiction!!! TX Jim

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Hay Dr

06-26-2005 13:10:57




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 Deere round balers are Green Hesston's in reply to Tx Jim, 06-26-2005 12:05:07  
The JD 704 is a wheel rake that is made by Tonutti. JD started selling the 704 tonutti rake in the mid- 1990's. The JD 705 is a hydraulic Twin Rake and is the current model twin rake that Vermeer makes for JD. Vermeer did start makeing Twin rakes for JD back in the 1980's.

Vermeer make many products for CAT & John Deere.



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Tx Jim

06-26-2005 16:03:53




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 And you call me prejudice in reply to Hay Dr, 06-26-2005 13:10:57  
hay dr,now you have moved from bragging on Vermeer products to bashing JD products.Are you saying that Hesston builds JD balers or vice/versa.I can't figure how JD products have anything to do with your first raking mis-statement other than you're just trying to blow smoke up somewhere to cover your propaganda.At least no advertising pictures.Tx Jim



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Hay Dr

06-26-2005 18:04:07




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 JD Engineering Dept. Slogan: COPY OTHERS AND FIGHT in reply to Tx Jim, 06-26-2005 16:03:53  
In 1986 & 1988 Hesston & Vermeer filled a patent infringement suits against JD concerning their monitor and bale forming method patent #'s US4135352, US4145964, US4683815, US4702066. It was settled in 1990 and JD had to pay a war pension to both Vermeer and Hesston. JD also had to pay a patent licensing fee to Hesston for every baler they produced until the Hesston patents expired.



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Tx Jim

06-27-2005 03:34:06




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  JD Engineering Dept. Slogan: COPY OTHERS AND FIGH in reply to Hay Dr, 06-26-2005 18:04:07  
Hay Dr,may I ask what this has to do with your statement that hay raked by a Vermeer R 21 rake will weight 250# more than hay raked by NH256????I think JD didn't make this statement so why are you bashing JD again.Can you think of any more smoke screens.When Vermeer started making disc cutters and wheelrakes/caddy's did they copy any other manufacturer??Tx Jim



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