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Why not just plant treated seed?

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John e.c.MI

03-12-2005 11:32:16




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Why not order your seed already treated with Poncho 250/1250 or Gaucho and forget about messing with insecticide seperately? Second, most universities will tell you that unless you soil tests are low in phosphorus, starter will not pay. Broadcast your NPK and plant.




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andy1

03-12-2005 15:51:38




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 Re: Why not just plant treated seed? in reply to John e.c.MI, 03-12-2005 11:32:16  
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andy1

03-12-2005 15:49:29




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 Re: Why not just plant treated seed? in reply to John e.c.MI, 03-12-2005 11:32:16  
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Dieselrider

03-12-2005 15:27:13




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 Re: Why not just plant treated seed? in reply to John e.c.MI, 03-12-2005 11:32:16  
Ok, now help me get this straight. If I broadcast my fertilizer on and then just plant treated sweet corn I won't need the fert. boxes or the gandy boxes? Will this treated corn work for root worm, grubs, wireworms and cutworms? Or will I need more than that and if so could I broadcast it on the corn later or apply it when cultivating? Is there a web site or somewhere to check this out? I'll look for Ponch and Goucho on the net. Sorry for the skepticism but, it sounds too good to be true. Thanks in advance.

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John e.c.MI

03-12-2005 16:40:09




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 Re: Why not just plant treated seed? in reply to Dieselrider, 03-12-2005 15:27:13  
Poncho 250 will get all those pests except root worm, for that you need to go to the extra strength Poncho 1250. I only grow 2-3 acres of sweet corn but most of the commericial vegetable seed companies are offering treated seed. We already have Bt(corn borer) resistant varieties on the market and I'll bet very quickly you will see YGRW(yeild guard root worm)varieties as well. As for the fertilizer, broadcast it, work it in and plant. No worries about getting too much too close to the seed. Don't knock yourself out making things harder than they have to be. How are you doing it now?

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Dieselrider

03-13-2005 04:58:19




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 Re: Why not just plant treated seed? in reply to John e.c.MI, 03-12-2005 16:40:09  
John, the way I have been planting is this. I borrowed an AC planter from a neighbor that has the fert. boxes and the insecticide boxes on and he is telling me I need this. Since he's been doing this alot longer than I have I had no reason to doubt him. If I can get away with what you're telling me then I won't have to worry about the insecticide boxes at all. I am not doubting what you're telling me but, I am more confused than before. Where would I find seed that you're speaking of? Would my local feed store be likely to carry it or would I more likely have to special order it? Thanks for all your help and I am sorry for all the questions that must seem really dumb to you.

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John e.c.MI

03-13-2005 08:24:03




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 Try this... in reply to Dieselrider, 03-13-2005 04:58:19  
I doubt your local hardware store that sells garden seed will carry treated seed. Try Siegers Seed or Harris Seeds for starters, both have web sites. You can also get a product called Kernal Guard that comes in a container about the size of a pop can. You just mix it on the seed in the hopper. It will get some of the pests you mentioned but not root worm. Remember insecticide is nasty stuff so try not to get it on your hands or breath the dust. You can e-mail me if you have any more questions. [email protected]

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Dieselrider

03-13-2005 10:17:50




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 Re: Try this... in reply to John e.c.MI, 03-13-2005 08:24:03  
The kernal guard you mention sounds good. Why couldn't I put other insecticide right in with the corn also to fight against root worm?



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John e.c.mi

03-14-2005 04:32:47




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 Re: Try this... in reply to Dieselrider, 03-13-2005 10:17:50  
I don't know if Poncho is availble by itself. I thought the seed had to be ordered with it. If you can buy it alone I see no reason why you could not add it to the seed yourself. I think you will need a way to measure out what will probably be a very small amount. Hope this helps.



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