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They are Round Bales

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ClemBert

01-18-2005 15:09:57




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The bales are small to medium size round bales. The person that baled the hay said the bales weigh 600lbs but I'd like to error on the side of caution so I'm going to call them 1000lb bales.




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paul

01-18-2005 16:59:20




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 Re: They are Round Bales in reply to ClemBert, 01-18-2005 15:09:57  
Cool. Sounds good.

I hope I don't sound too gruff or such. My appologies if I do. :) It's good to ask questions, and this is the place for it. :)

I'm just concerned about your safety, and the way you started your question was kinda like safety really doesn't matter..... I may have come back on that a bit.

I have a smaller compact loader as I mentioned below, ~27 hp. I also have a narrow front mid 1940's H tractor with narrow front and a pathetic old loader on it.

I've been running that H (oddly also about 27 hp!) hauling manure (heavy!) and other stuff for what, 35 years. It has never felt unstable to me. We have 400 lbs of concrete weight in the rear wheels, and place a platform on the rear hitch with another 500 lbs of concrete & steel weights on it. I drive around on my somewhat hilly & slippery cow yard, and have never felt the least bit unstable.

I've had the compact 4wd with loader for 23 months now. Love it. Like a pocket knife or a pliers, run it almost every day....

I was pulling 2 empty wagons with it, went down hill, & it wanted to jackknife. The rear end is just so light with the loader up front! Raking hay with it in the road ditches, it felt like I was going to tip. Just feels so unstable with the narrowness & very short wheelbase. And this is not even with a load in the loader!

I had fluid put in the tires in a hurry. That has made it a much more stable, safe, & useful _tractor_.

Still way to light for the loader tho. If I actually use the loader for something of weight, I hook on a 3pt box I made for it. Must have 500 lbs or more of rocks in it. Now, this makes it a more stable _loader_. It still doesn't feel as good as my old narrow front loader tho.

The short wheelbase & the front wheel drive makes it able to outdrive it's stability. The old H, when the rear end gets too light stops moving - wheels spin. With the long wheelbase, any weight on the rear wheels or behind really makes it stable.

The compact, the loader is about as far in front of the front axle as the rear wheels are behind it. Most compacts, including yours, are built that way. Very nimble & manuverable, but far harder to ballist & stablize that way.

Then, the front axle will have _all_ the grip you ever need, and will continue to move the tractor. If the rear gets too light, doesn't matter - tractor will still move forward, making the situation worse....

can put a person in a bad place.

But again, I hope my words weren't taken wrong. Sometimes I write a little to stern - just my style, in person I'm a really warm person & don't mean anything.

To your question, I would hang something on the 3pt, and keep it low. This will help take some weight off your front axle, as the fulcrum for this weight is the rear axle. Will be better for your tractor, as well as providing needed rear weight. Someday a weight box or rack would be nice, however any beefy 3pt implement you have would sure work.

--->Paul

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ClemBert

01-18-2005 17:54:02




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 Ouch, my feelings are hurt... in reply to paul, 01-18-2005 16:59:20  
Just kidding. Actually, I appreciate all the input I get...good or bad. I just hold a grudge against those that bash my 'lil tractor...again, just kidding. Just how many HP does it take to have a "real" tractor anyways? I only have 13 acres of flat horse grazing pastureland so anything bigger than my 55/65HP tractor would be ridiculous. It is big enough though to put it in four wheel drive and drive over all those real "compact" tractors. How many acres are you on...Ponderosa size? Thanks for all your input on this topic. I'm going to put my 110 gallon sprayer on the 3-pt hitch and fill it up with water. That'll add 900lbs or so to the back.

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paul

01-18-2005 19:06:25




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 Re: Ouch, my feelings are hurt... in reply to ClemBert, 01-18-2005 17:54:02  
Well, around 220 acres. Pretty small.

I only have 2 'real' tractors by my own definition, and 4 others - too small or too old.

Maybe like their owner? :)

Of course the little or old tractors do more hours around this place than the 'real' ones.... ;)

--->Paul



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