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Tx Jim

02-21-2007 05:30:51




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Hugh a 21 ft tandem,7"-8" spacing would have around 60 blades not 80. If you don't believe me do the math. A JD 1635 plowing tandem will not go any where near spool deep here with 24 in cone cut-out blades and they have a very high pound/blade ratio but I feel confident that your Bush Hog tandem will go to spools here. As far as your 4630/1066 story goes this all depends on condition of engines,hp settings and traction. Next well be talking about the 4500 sq.bale/day one man hay operation. Later,Jim

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Hugh MacKay

02-21-2007 10:59:24




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 Re: Do the math in reply to Tx Jim, 02-21-2007 05:30:51  
Jim: As I read this, I never said 21', I said slightly over, however I did say exactly 80 blades. I guess that would depend how exact you want to get on slightly over 21'.

You don't give the specs on the JD 1635, thus I have no comment.

The 4630 and 1066 were as they came from factory, 4630 had about 400 hours and 1066 around 8,000 hours, and it was the Deere owner's opinion not mine. I had driven his tractor but never at max. pull. I never figured either one of our tractors were anywhere near max. pull on the disks we had. Both tractors had been bought new to run forage harvesters.

The 4500 bales per day was not a one man hay day, but rather about 15 to 18 men. Small square bales have never been about horsepower, just pure manpower.

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Tx Jim

02-21-2007 12:03:43




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 Re: Do the math in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-21-2007 10:59:24  
Hugh,I've never heard a 22' tandem with 80 blades.
You didn't give spec. on Bush Hog tandem,so I won't comment
You still haven't convinced me a near worn-out factory hp 1066 will out pull a factory hp 4630 in warranty !!!!! !!!!!



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pcy1066

02-21-2007 14:22:10




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 Re: Do the math in reply to Tx Jim, 02-21-2007 12:03:43  
i will chime in here, i have owened at least 50 ih 1066 tractors and only 4 4630 jds on any given day any one of the 10s will have the 4630s for lunch, thats why we dont have them any more, i liked the 4630 cab but they all were addictid to starting fluid at 30 degrees, in the feild the 10s will run all day at 250 plus hp wfo, the jds wont i will take a 1066 over a 4630 any day



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Hugh Mackay

02-21-2007 13:49:55




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 Re: Do the math in reply to Tx Jim, 02-21-2007 12:03:43  
Jim: Do you comprehend 80 blade 20" blades? Seems quite clear to me. You on the other hand didn't even suggest blade size or number of disks on that Deere.

No one said anything about any tractor out pulling the other. The Deere owner knowing full well his 4630 being rated 20+ hp more than the 1066, after using my 1066 on his forage harvester, said, "It makes my Deere look bad". He didn't say it ran away with the harvester, he didn't even say it did as well as the 4630. I forget the exact ratings but that 4630 would have been rated around 150 hp. It was always my opinion that he the owner of the Deere was somewhat disappointed with his tractor. By the way that 1066 was turning 150+ the day it was new, it was turning 150+ at 4,000 hours as it was at 8,000 hours, and that was as it came from the factory.

This discussion started out comparing offset to tandem disk, that my friend was the question, in case you hadn't noticed.

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Tx Jim

02-21-2007 15:35:24




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 size of blades in reply to Hugh Mackay, 02-21-2007 13:49:55  
Hugh,yes I comprehend 80 blades 20" in dia.
JD 1635 tandem as stated has 24" blades,it has 24 blades(6 per shaft) As for as the two tractors you implied that your 1066 was factory hp as was the JD,so who can't comprehend????? ???
Neither of us is going to convince the other "so stick me with a fork like a baked potatoe" I'm done



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Hugh MacKay

02-21-2007 16:56:38




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 Re: size of blades in reply to Tx Jim, 02-21-2007 15:35:24  
You know Jim, I've felt exactly the same way last 2-3 rounds. What in hell were we discussing?



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