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Ported plate doesn't work

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FreeRanger

10-17-2006 19:17:33




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Tractor came with a plugged "ported" plate. I added connectors, hose and cylinder on haybine. No lift haybine!! I check connections, hose and cylinder with nieghbor's tractor: Everything works as should. Used racketing toplink to manually raising/lowering haybine for third crop. Worked OK for alfalfa/grass hay but plugged sickle bar on thick tall orchard grass hay.

Recently purchased video on rebuilding the tractor internal hydraulics but hope to avoid that if possible since 3pt is working OK. Maybe 3pt would work better if I spend the winter rebuilding. Easier to add(purchase) spool valve which I need and see what happens.

By the way how do you "chain 3pt down" while pulling haybine with PTO running? I bent a cast iron tow bar trying hold down the 3pt. I like to see a photo of someone who has "chain 3pt down and use your 3pt lever to raise and lower mo-co"

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Fordfarmer

10-19-2006 08:26:56




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 Re: Ported plate doesn't work in reply to FreeRanger, 10-17-2006 19:17:33  
Your 600 CAN handle the mower - you don't need to stop to raise it, as the hydraulic pump runs all the time the engine runs. Ford had a kit to chain down the 3-point for using the ported plate to run remote cylinders. Chains, 1/2" thick brackets, and fine threaded U-bolts if I remember right. My Grandpa had one for his (now my) Jubilee for running the one-armed loader. The loader was sold 15+ years ago, but I think the chains and brakets are still hanging in my garage. Drop me an email if you'd be interested in them.
-Mark

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Errin OH

10-18-2006 09:51:31




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 Re: Ported plate doesn't work in reply to FreeRanger, 10-17-2006 19:17:33  
If your three point works the port works too. First what you described I refer to as poor mans hyds. The key to it is you can only use either the hyd "or" the 3pt. Not both.

Coming out of the port on the plate you need a valve, this is used to close of the port just like it had a plug in it. You could try and get by with a hyd coupler but have you ever tried to connect or disconnect one with pressure on it? Next you need to determine if you need a return. Most lift only apps don't so I assume you don't. Not needing a return run from the valve to the cyl. Next step in the operation is to chain down the the 3pt. They really mean "chain" it down (no stay brackets). Wrap a chain around the axel and up over the lift arm (not where you mount impls, arm under seat). This proceedure makes the 3 pt inoperable, period. Trying to use it and the hyd is just asking for disaster. Not even for a draw bar. Get one that comes out from under the tractors belley. Now that the 3pt in fix and not movable, you open your valve (open the path to the cyl) and raise the 3pt control like you where raising it. This pushes hyd fuild through the port to the cyl. Once the cyl reaches it end the relief in the tractor will open, leave the 3 pt control up. When ready to lower, lower the control and fuild will travel back through the port as the unit lowers. One common error is to not properly tie down the arms. Hyd fuild under pressure (holding something up) is looking for some place to go. If those arms come loose, they will raise up to the point where the bypass is triggered and what ever you have up will come crashing down.

To use the 3pt, close the valve and remove the chain. BTW don't open the valve with the 3pt up. Same thing as before, it will come down.....

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