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Can't even use

02-11-2006 14:41:16




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I first questioned Hugh on his 4500 bales a day not on the fact of how much your ground yields or what kinda boys you can get to help unload or load your hay but on one simple statement. He claimed his NH 69 baler was capable of baling 4500 bales a day. Why don't I think this is possible? We have a brand new NH 570 that I am sure will eat a NH 69 and I have never ran her full throttle and just dropped bales but I have ran it with the pickup being full and the plunger taking in all it can and I just don't think you could get much over 400 bales an hour. Since this 570 packs 93 strokes/min and the 69 was probably 60 strokes/min how can you bale the same or more hay in an hour. We bale over 300 acres three cuttings a year at least maybe four so I do have some knowledge. Yield and labor are not the problem here, I just don't think the baler could do the work. Anyone have a Guinness Book of World Records handy? They have the record amount of hay baled in a day in there somewhere and unfortunately the Millenium Edition I have doesn't have it. Look it up and report back as to how many tons they did and how long it took them.

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IaGary

02-11-2006 17:55:08




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 Re: Ya'll lost sight in reply to Can't even use my name, 02-11-2006 14:41:16  
Shaun I'm guessing that your making a 75 pound bale if so you only have to make 270 bales an hour to equal Hugh's 450 45# bales.
That should be no problem right.



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Hugh MacKay

02-11-2006 15:00:03




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 Re: Ya'll lost sight in reply to Can't even use my name, 02-11-2006 14:41:16  
Shaun: Get off that bale number kick and go with tons of hay. Tons of hay is what counts.

Now I'll tell you something the S-69 had going for it that most later NH machines did not have. NH had some of the best manual writers anywhere during the 50s and 60s. I have never seen a manual as well written as the S-69 and 460 haybine manuals were. The trouble shooting section was second to none.

By 1970 that was a thing of the past. I have never seen a NH 570 manual, but most of the later manuals I've seen from NH were very poorly written. In fact some of the poorest manuals I've ever seen. Did you ever think that 570 may not be adjusted very well?

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Can't even use my name

02-11-2006 18:35:50




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 Re: Ya'll lost sight in reply to Hugh MacKay, 02-11-2006 15:00:03  
Could care less what the manual says. Been around the 570 baler long enough to not need a manual. Could be written in Chinese for all I care. Now if you look at all this in tons you are baling 4500 45lb bales for 101.25 tons. The most I can remember baling was about 2300 maybe 2400 55lb bales for 66 tons. We have probably baled the most in a day for anyone else around and that is a bit over half what you did in a day with a smaller baler. Who knows, maybe your area has some sorta magnetic field and things just happen faster, above typical possibilities for other areas. Someone looked in the Record Book yet, I know it is in there.

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Hugh MacKay

02-11-2006 18:54:01




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 Re: Ya'll lost sight in reply to Can't even use my name, 02-11-2006 18:35:50  
Shaun: I guess you best find the manual, you certainly don't have that baler adjusted properly. Either that or your coffee breaks are too long. I'm not talking record baler production at 100 ton per day. There are balers out there dropping bales on the ground and hitting the 150 ton mark every day. Get your head out of the sand, this kind of production has been going on for 50 years.



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John In Iowa

02-11-2006 14:47:34




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 Re: Ya'll lost sight in reply to Can't even use my name, 02-11-2006 14:41:16  
I recall Dad saying that the 57W that he was thinking on replacing the 56 was the same. The 57 W was rated at 20 tons pre hour.

John In Iowa



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Can't even use my name

02-11-2006 18:25:50




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 Re: Ya'll lost sight in reply to John In Iowa, 02-11-2006 14:47:34  
Heck! At 20 tons per hour that is 888.9 45# bales. Hugh was going slow and I am at a dead crawl.



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John In Iowa

02-12-2006 11:25:09




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 Re: Ya'll lost sight in reply to Can't even use my name, 02-11-2006 18:25:50  
I don"t think that baler was ever able to make a 45# bale, I have seen 145# bales baling beans.

John In Iowa



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Hayman

02-11-2006 20:26:02




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 an amazing baler in reply to Can't even use my name, 02-11-2006 18:25:50  
This old baler sounds quite amazing!

So at 888.9 45lb bales an hr. thats 14.8 bales a minute I guess. I haven't followed all these threads has someone acutally claimed that many bales an hr??

How many strokes a minute is this baler doing??
The new ones are about 93 my old 278's are rated at 105 but we only run them at 93 spm. I'm thinking this old NH69 is more like 80 SPM (someone have the specs).

So @ 80 strokes per minute that would mean about 5.4 strokes per bale to make the 15.8 bales a minute. So if these are smaller like 30" bales with 5.4 flakes per bale they gonna have to be pretty thick!

I believe 4000 bales in day with one baler (NH 278) as we've done it once that I can think of. But it was a looooo ng day in perfect conditons. Unlike our typical baling days which don't start till late afternoon. Is this baler bigger than lets say a NH273??? Cause those are a small compared to a newer baler.

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