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NO! you don't have to.

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Jeff-oh

04-15-2005 07:12:32




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Okay, Time to wade into the fray again....

Tom,

Please be advised that there are some very strong Zealots for one positioner over another. This for some reason has gotten to be an emotional topic for a lot of people.

I admit I am one of those people... However, I am a zealot for presenting all the options and letting you decide what you want... if you want it.

Bottom line you do not "NEED" a position control for you 3-pt. to work. Your 3.pt. is the same design as a 9N,2N,TO-20 and TO-30.

Whether you "NEED" a position control or not depends on what you do with your tractor. A position control is basically a simple feed-back link that moves the 3-pt. lever so that if the 3-pt. drifts down the lever is moved to command the 3-pt. up and if it drifts up then the 3-pt. is commanded down returning to the initial condition. That it all.

Now, where these things may be useful. If you use Non-ground engaging implements... i.e. bush hogs they can help maintain a fixed height to the ground. Finish mowers that are not supported by the 3-pt. but rest on the ground DO NOT need a position control.

Only you can decide if you need one or not. And that is based on what you do with your tractor and how annoying 3.pt. drift is to you. In my case I set my TE-20 and mow it does drift a little and I reset the height about every 5 to 10 minutes. If you can mow and find a good neutral position so that the bush hog does not drift too bad then your fine. (This is what I do.)

Now... There are at least 4 options if you want position control...

The above 2 discussed already are options that commercially available. Both are claimed to work and have long lists of satisfied customers.

a this option is to use check chains... i.e. hard link the height to the tractor frame. Al long list of people like this option as it removes the implement weight off the hydraulic pump.

A third option, that the guys trying to push the for sale items always fail to disclose, is a simple position control you can make if you have the least little skill.

This is the one pictured above. I have a measured drawing I will send you if you would like it. Just leave your e-mail. This concept was originally published in one of the N-club newsletters and then presented her by Rob.

Bottom line the choice is yours, use your tractor then determine if you want/need one based on your needs.

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Charlie

07-21-2006 18:29:59




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 Re: NO! you don't have to. in reply to Jeff-oh, 04-15-2005 07:12:32  
I would love to get your sketch with the measurements for the height control system for a to-20. Thanks for posting this info.

Charlie in NH



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Larry/ NY

06-09-2006 13:27:55




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 Re: NO! you don't have to. in reply to Jeff-oh, 04-15-2005 07:12:32  
I too have a drift problem. Could you send me a sketch of your controller.



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ozark-rene

10-05-2005 03:00:00




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 Re: NO! you don't have to. in reply to Jeff-oh, 04-15-2005 07:12:32  
I read your post and would like a copy of that, not sure if I will be able to fabricate but I will try my best. I do appreciate it, and thanks in advance.



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Ivan Mi

04-19-2005 17:21:03




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 Re: NO! you don't have to. in reply to Jeff-oh, 04-15-2005 07:12:32  
Would you send me a set of drawings aslo. I have a TE 20 and it will not hold its setting while mowing. Thanks



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Tom/PA

04-16-2005 19:07:11




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 Re: NO! you don't have to. in reply to Jeff-oh, 04-15-2005 07:12:32  
Hi Jeff-oh
Yes, I am interested in making my own system. I have a welding and fabricating shop so it should be no problem making one. Please e-mail me the drawings....they will be greatly appreciated. I was working with my tractor today and what a nice tractor. It does have some drift in the hydraulics but not real bad. I plan on picking up a finish mower for it and may do some rototilling.
Thanks again for all your help,
Tom

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