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Allis B Charging System

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Toby(NC)

04-17-2007 22:45:36




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UPDATE from a Previous Post...

I was having a problem with the charging system on an Allis B.
I had noticed a little smoke coming from the switch box and I investigated...
I found that the resistor had been red hot but was cooling down when I removed
the cover from ground. The switch was pushed all the way in and I noticed that
the amp meter was just sitting at (0). The genie had been working fine and the
switch was working as well. I had 3 amps with the switch pushed in and with lights
on and at the third lever the amp meter showed 10 amps.
With the tractor running I gounded the switch and the resistor became red hot...
So I ungrouned the switch and it cooled down...
So I removed the cut out relay cover and found that with the ground wire to the
switch not connected the cut out was open and when I gounded the switch the cut out
closed and resistor became red hot so I pulled the switch to the third position and
the resistor cooled...

Well today I have located and fixed the Problem...
The first chack that I did was to see if there was any voltage on the "BAT" side of the
cut out relay. I found that there was NO Voltage there...
So, I then removed the wires from the original amp meter and with an ohm meter checked
the amp meter for through put. I found that the amp meter to be defective.
I had a new amp meter from AGCO. I installed it and grounded the switch box and checked
for voltage at the "BAT" side of the cut out relay and now I had voltage!
Started the tractor and WOW... everything is WORKING FINE...
JUST WANTED TO LET EVERYONE KNOW THAT A APPERICATE YOU ASSISTANCE IN THE PROBLEM...
PS... there was no fireworks when this meter went out... I guess that the amp meter
took early retitrement at 58 years...

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Texas Denny

04-18-2007 08:57:06




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 Re: Allis B Charging System in reply to Toby(NC), 04-17-2007 22:45:36  
I'm impressed with the way you worked your way through the problem. Since you could check for voltage at the cutout, you must have had a volt-ohm meter. It is a necessary tool for these problems. Since I am assuming you had a VOM, you could check the resistance between the terminals on the old ammeter. If the resistance is high, that meter is the bad component. If the resistance measures zero or close to zero, the meter may be all right. In the latter case, I would suspect the connections. When you started changing things, all connections are likely to improve.

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