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B hydraulics barely working

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smiley

03-16-2006 16:35:11




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My B hydraulics have slowed down over the years and will only push the pistons slowly out about 4 ", barely lifting my backblade off the ground. I imagine the pump needs a rebuild. If it's a gear type, I can get it reground. Does anyone out there have experience with these or a diagram of the pump?
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Smiley




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Smiley

03-17-2006 04:40:20




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 Re: B hydraulics barely working in reply to smiley, 03-16-2006 16:35:11  
Thanks for the info guys. As soon as I can, I'll yank it apart and see what's happening. If worse comes to worse, I have a loader on my B and could run another line from it to the lift and lliminate the pump altogether.
Smiley



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D13

03-17-2006 03:36:13




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 Re: B hydraulics barely working in reply to smiley, 03-16-2006 16:35:11  
If you pull the pump, be sure to look at the cams on the PTO shaft that drive the pistons. One of mine was slow and jerky and I found that the cam lobes were worn throu the hard facing and not giving enough lift.



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Rod (NH)

03-16-2006 17:42:28




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 Re: B hydraulics barely working in reply to smiley, 03-16-2006 16:35:11  
Hi Smiley,

I recently had my B pump apart. Randy is correct - you really, really need that manual for the instructions and pictures it contains. I assume you are talking about the stock pump. It is not a gear pump but is a piston type that operates off two cam lobes on the pto shaft.

Your problem could just be increasingly poor seating in either of the two piston discharge valves (they are a ball, a ball seat and a spring) or the relief seat, also a ball/seat/spring combination. It could be something else too, but those are the two areas I'd check into first.

You will find any parts very expensive at AGCO, once you decide what you may need. See my previous post here.

Good luck in getting it fixed.

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RandyN

03-16-2006 17:05:55




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 Re: B hydraulics barely working in reply to smiley, 03-16-2006 16:35:11  
Hi Smiley,

If you get a Service Manual it has a great section on the hydraulic pump...great pictures, too. Well worth the money.

I got a C not too long ago where the hydraulic pump did want to work and I drained some thick goo out of the transmission, cleaned it out with a little kerosene, and put some new hydraulic/transmission fluid in it. Works like a new one now!

Good luck!

RandyN



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Smiley

03-16-2006 16:40:26




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 Re: B hydraulics barely working in reply to smiley, 03-16-2006 16:35:11  
Sorry about the multiple post. I was hitting my back button not realizing it was posting each time and can't edit it out.
Smiley



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