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BCnT

09-14-2005 07:03:47




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the spring tension was adjustable on the needle and if i took it apart to clean i'd need special tools to reset tension...youre saying clean it,crank cup back down over spring and i'm good to go?
sorry for all the questions but until i've actually done the work i have a hard time understanding manuals.believe it or not i'm a ford certified mechanic...not on diesels tho lol
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Texas Denny

09-14-2005 12:14:29




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 Re: ok,i thought... in reply to BCnT, 09-14-2005 07:03:47  
This was nearly 10 years ago that I went through these things. I've been studying the D-17 IT manual and trying to remember how I did it. I know I used those two pages (44 and 45) as my guide. But I cannot remember adjusting the spring tension. The diagram looks like the the entire spring tension unit can be removed without removing the adjustment or tampering with its current setting. And it appears that the surfaces that could use cleaning can be removed without taking the spring system out. That, however, seems like the wrong thing to do as you'd be turn the mating surfaces with the spring tension on them which Would be bad. I may have marked where the adjusting nut is and simply returned it to its previous position. That seems like the smartest move to me.

The manual is very negative on using any kind of abrasive paste for the cleaning and recommend using tallow and a stick. I know I used a stick but I didn't use tallow. Pretty sure I used a very fine grade of diamond grit paste. I rubbed only until everything was shiny. Then I reassembled.

I may have felt desperate and just did what I could afford at the time. As I reread all of the manual, it appears I went outside of recommendation in my cleaning. So If you follow what I did, You'll be doing it at your own risk. I did it because if my cleaning didn't work, I wasn't out much because I'd be buying new (rebuilt) anyhow. As it was, I was very careful and it has worked for the last 10 years flawlessly.

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BCnT

09-14-2005 22:45:28




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 IT musta copied page... in reply to Texas Denny, 09-14-2005 12:14:29  
i got same instructions in my copy of original...think i'm gonna pull all injectors tomorrow and see what i got...theres a indy dealer in town thats got a test bench and set up to clean/repair if i get in over my head.
appreciate your time/experience
chuck



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Texas Denny

09-15-2005 06:47:27




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 Re: IT musta copied page... in reply to BCnT, 09-14-2005 22:45:28  
Good luck. I just re-read your original post (probably the 5th time). I still think the issue is valves and not injectors. When you get the injectors out, take a compression check. See if all cylinders are about the same.

And maybe there is something the matter with your fuel. I can't imagine dirty injectors causing the trouble you describe. A small amount of gasoline mixed with diesel would cause all the noises you describe. I'd drain your tank, put in new fuel. Drain the filters and replace them and bleed the system. Then start it and see where you are.

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