Re: Ferguson loader mishap video.

Posted by Billy NY on July 17, 2015 at 11:15:03 from (104.228.35.235):

In Reply to: Ferguson loader mishap video. posted by Fatjay on July 17, 2015 at 09:05:50:

That's painful to watch, ( the pump noise LOL !) is the reservoir low or is the return line pinched or kinked ?

From observation, one may think you don't know how to load a bucket properly. Now hold that thought.

1.) I don't see a bucket cylinder at first, but there is a single one. If it was a trip bucket, I could see going into the pile any which way, finding the least compacted, "loose'est" material, to get something in the bucket to move, essentially working with what you have to get the job done. Not sure if that has down pressure or 2 way cylinders. I would imagine you would know that going into a pile at the base of it with the bucket low and flat to the ground, then raising and curling the bucket as you do this, (fun with an old tractor no P/S I know LOL!) will get more material loaded in one pass. You kind of wriggle your way up the bank of the pile and collect material as you raise the bucket. A hard pile is more difficult, best to push off loose material to load if you can. My old tractor and loader is worthless for a hard bank or pile of material.

2.) If you have down pressure, uncurl the bucket, raise it up over the pile, drive up to and onto the pile if needed, then use the bucket while driving in reverse to pull down and spread the fill loosely in front the pile to load it easier. When you have enough, line up the bucket, tilt down just a hair from flat or leave flat, then drive into what you just pulled down and you'll have a heaped bucket, that fills as you drive up to the remaining pile which when pushing against at that point will help load material as it retains in place. However, that's not the best for a tractor like one of these, so tilt as much material off at the pile or loading area as you need to make the weight a little less and not spill and waste material. You will still move more material with less trips. I can feel the weight of dirt on my old loader, best to not get greedy given the weight and the kind of tractor it is. I have broken a spindle on a downhill slope before, loader bucket was low to the ground though, but I am sure it was from heavy lifting over years. When on pavement, if the front wheel looks to be leaning, it could be a failing or cracked spindle, mine was cracked for awhile before it broke, part of the break was rusty and it did have a tilt or lean to it.

3.) Once at the dump area, you can line up to the fill area and tilt the bucket forward spread the material if you like, as you dump it off. I do tilt my bucket down and use it like that for loose material so I can see how much is spilling off until the pass is finished, just like I would a dozer blade, no more material falling, time to reverse and make another pass or in your case get another bucket load. My old 850 ford with a wagner loader, as is with the repairs needed, has to be the worst to operate for work like this, but I was able to spread 20 yds of gravel and 25 tons of crusher run this spring, I never loaded the bucket once as the material was close enough to just pull or push. Sure the bucket cylinders will be extended and if you hit something hard, it could bend a cylinder rod, but spreading loose material its no issue.

4.) Operating a tractor with a loader bucket at that height, loaded or not, is unsafe and increases the risk of roll over dramatically. If you break a spindle, something gives way under foot, or you just run a back tire over a small windrow or pile, it could easily go over.

Its great to make the best use of what you have to get the work done as best you can but you had best deal with that pump noise, and you may want to re-think your operating habits, consider a roll over protection structure and a seat with a seat belt. I thought there was a government rebate for farmers that want to install these to be safe, may not cost you much, need more head room when parked or in the garage, get a fold down type.

My front pump will only whine if the fluid is low, the return line kinked or its in the 20's or below, til it warms up, something is wrong there, it should not make noise like that. The shaft connection is one thing, you won't have much of a pump left by now if its been starved for fluid.

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