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Re: Is tractor supply john deere green good restoration p...


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Posted by TGS on December 26, 2008 at 07:42:06 from (69.77.206.179):

In Reply to: Is tractor supply john deere green good restoration paint? posted by 2cylinder on December 23, 2008 at 11:28:41:

No, it really isn't.

Having worked as a formulating chemist for two fortune 500 paint companies and many years managing finishing operations for companies, two of which supplied components to Deere & CO, I’ll share what I know about the Ag Green & Yellow supplied by Valspar.

The last time I was in a Deere plant was in ‘97 (Des Moines Works) where this same alkyd was applied to small parts such as latches, pins, brackets, etc. Application was via dip tanks followed by touch up with conventional air spray guns and force dried in a convection oven @ 180F. Quite the contrast to what was done on the other side of the complex where entire cotton picker shells were being electrocoated in a cathodic acrylic e-coat tank the size of a swimming pool.

The Ag Yellow and Green, whether bought from Deere or Case/IH dealers are the same animal, a low end soya alkyd product . It does not contain an acrylic copolymer, whereas the better performing Case/IH “Gloss Red “ does. It has one distinct advantage, when applied over a less than perfect oil free / smut free surface, it will have greater adhesion properties than acrylic modified alkyds, acrylics, urethanes, polyesters and so forth. This class of medium to long chain alkyds will “wet out” over oil and smut laden surfaces where the other’s cannot due to surface tension and chemically reactive incompatibilities. The use of hardeners is apparently a moot point as there is really nothing for the isocyanate to react with that will result in a perceivable difference.

Currently I operate a modest shop and have had quite a few Deere tractors in the past year. We have used the Deere Green & Yellow from both Deere and Case/IH only to find them alike. We no longer use either due to quality and productivity concerns. In their place we use an industrial catalyzed urethane topcoat applied over a mil spec epoxy primer. The gloss retention is equivalent to the automotive version for half the cost.


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