Re: desert sunset paint code

Posted by Rod (NH) on March 11, 2006 at 09:36:18 from (64.140.200.138):

In Reply to: Re: desert sunset paint code posted by 1030 brian on March 11, 2006 at 05:57:20:

Brian,

If you are using the PPG OMNI line (MAE for acrylic enamel), then you want MAE81537, which is what my PPG listing indicates for Case Desert Sunset.

If you want to use the brand NAPA usually carries (Martin Senour) you probably want 3726, called Desert Sand (also beige). Sherwin Williams is just a basic Martin Senour with a different label and number. For Sherwin Williams, you probably want 3605, also callled Desert Sand or Beige. If you poke around in either MS or SW websites, you'll find that both the 3726 and the 3605 cross from PPG 81537. That's a good sign.

I also have a DuPont listing of old tractor paint codes. That lists a C8089 as a Case Desert Sand and also crosses (per DuPont) to Martin Senour 3726. There is no reference in the DuPont list for a cross to any PPG number. If you use the MS and SW website's competitor cross references, you'll get crosses for DuPont C8089 as MS5325 (beige) and SW30813 (beige) - which are different than above. Not such a good sign. A cross from DuPont to MS but not back the other way, from MS to DuPont.

Furthermore, if you go to DuPont's website (registration and access authority required for color formula info), you'll find that C8089 is referred to as a 1980 Ford color called Pastel Chamois!

So - conflicting information, which is par for the course. In my limited experience with old Allis Chalmers colors, DuPont and MS have both been confusing and inconclusive regarding a reasonable match to original. I have found PPG to be quite good in that regard. I would treat any cross reference information you get from any source as questionable. If you are particular about color shade, you may have to purchase more than one product and spray test samples to verify the product is what you want. Or simply believe someone else and hope for the best.

This is the first I have heard about Centari going south. Are you sure? I have been able to get it in my area, at least as of about 3 years ago. I am not that surprised that it might be being phased out, at least at the level of many jobbers. Delstar, PPG's long time competitor to Centari (also an excellent acrylic enamel) has not been available in my area for at least 10 years now - not enough local market nowadays for a relatively high priced old technology (acrylic enamel). Both of these products have been quite expensive for what they are and are not used to any great extent in the auto-refinish industry, which has been taken over, almost completely, by bc/cc urethanes. What little market there is left for automotive acrylic enamels, apparently is being filled by the "economy" lines - OMNI in PPG and NASON in DuPont. If you are used to Centari, can get it in your area and are willing to pay a premium price for it, you'll like it better than the OMNI MAE, assuming you can get it in a color shade that you are satisfied with. Forget Dulux altogether. That was a great product at one time long ago but now is (or at least should be) in the dust bin of history.

Take all this as opinionated info as I have no personal knowledge of any Case colors. I am only looking at information that is, or has been, published by the above paint companies. Proceed at your own risk.

Rod

Replies:

• Re: desert sunset paint code 1030 brian 20:09:31 03/11/06 (2)
  • Re: desert sunset paint code Rod (NH) 08:55:01 03/12/06 (1)
    • Re: desert sunset paint code 1030 brian 17:59:09 03/12/06 (0)

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