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Re: 442 Case hydraulic drive issue?


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Posted by Tom Arnold on July 11, 2013 at 07:06:39 from (174.95.24.162):

In Reply to: Re: 442 Case hydraulic drive issue? posted by Bob on July 10, 2013 at 23:17:58:

Past ownership of a couple Case tractors doesn't qualify you as an expert, Bob.

Hydrostatic drive is an excellent method to provide power to the rear wheels but it has its short-comings. Hydraulic Drive is also an excellent method but it too is not perfect. Colt was the company that pioneered and patented the hydraulic drive for garden tractors. That MIGHT be one of the reasons why no other company went that route.

Hydraulic Drive's big plus is that you have 8 to 10 gallons of oil in constant circulation at pressures as high as 2800 PSI on some models. This fact gives Colt, Case and Ingersoll tractors the ability to provide hydraulic power to their rototiller, Bush Hog Mower, double-acting log splitter, 3 pt hitch mounted 48 inch finishing mower, chipper/shredder as well as mower decks and snowcaster for certain models. No hydrostatically driven garden tractor has the capability to do this.

When someone such as yourself does not truly know the product that they are commenting on, it means they are ignorant of all the facts.

Colt patented the hydraulic drive system in 1962. Case bought Colt in 1964. Jack Ingersoll bought the company in 1983. Eastman Industries bought the company in 2005. Here we are today, 50 years later and you can still buy a brand new hydraulic drive Ingersoll garden tractor. If the product was as bad as you suggest, there must be a lot of stupid people in the world because they kept coming back to the dealers to purchase another hydraulic drive tractor instead of choosing what you consider to be the superior drive system.

It is true that the early models did have a run-away problem on steep grades when operated by people who never took the time to read the Operator's Manual. That problem was resolved with an add-on holding valve that was later on incorporated into the tractors as standard.

The fact that you had the thrill ride you speak of simply demonstrates your ignorance of how these tractors function in the right hands. If you are happy with your hydrostatic tractors, then who am I to argue? I just take exception to negative comments about CCI tractors being made by someone who hasn't a clue about them.

I hope this reply lives up to your expectation of chastisement. After all, you did invite it so you have nothing to complain about.


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