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Re: Model F Model N parts interchangeability?


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Posted by SteveWelker on August 24, 2010 at 05:31:45 from (74.93.122.41):

In Reply to: Model F & Model N parts interchangeability? posted by REPO on August 21, 2010 at 19:49:23:

Yes, a Model N engine will bolt to the Model F, but it is not that simple.
First from the pictures in your earlier post, the F is a late 1925/early 1926 and is indeed very original. I can even see the original style rolled fuel line with a seam! I can tell the year by a couple features, Mag kill switch on dash, flush plug head w/o bosses for plug wire holder, Holley 295, Rolled lip front wheels, Rear wheels drilled for both left and right cleats.
A few main problems/issues to install the N engine. First, if you intend to use the N head and water pump, you should also use the N radiator or at least the side castings, as the N fan is in a different location and the cutouts in the radiator sides are different. You could use the F radiator if you use the F head on the N motor w/o the water pump, but the '25/'26 head does not match the water oppenings of the N block exactly. I have seen them used but they can leak. A '27/'28 F head (p/n F133C or F133D) will match the N block exactly. Second you will need to use the N style front cover as it is made for the Mag and governor. If this is the English N front cover with the bolt pattern for the rowcrop pedistal, you can use you F front axle, If it is the Irish/English N front cover with the long axle support, you will need the dipped Irish front axle to keep the tractor level. Third, because the N engine has the 'dropped' manifold ports, the throttle linkage will not line up with the hole in the '25/'26 F dash. A '27/'28 F dash will work as these were also dropped port engine, but with the F dash you can not use the N governor without cutting a hole in the dash for the pull style throttle. If you have an Irish N dash this will also work and allow the use of the N governor. An english N dash has a long steering column, and would require the rear seating position and also the English rear housing with the clutch behind the axle.
This is all probally very confusing, but what I am trying to get at, is it complicated, and unless you been around these fordsons for years, you will run into some problems with this swap.
This all being said if I was buying these 2 tractors (Complete non-running F, good N motor) this is what I would do. Take the Good N internals and put them in the F block. The N valves are a larger stem size which would alow the F guides to be opened up, and the N pistons are an 1/8" bigger bore which would allow a rusted block to be rebored and cleaned up. I would even use the N Crank and Rods if they were in nicer shape. In the end you would have an original looking tractor that is worth more than a 'half-breed' F/N. Good luck, if you have any questions let me know.
-Steve


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