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To all intersted parties... the 23C again

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Posted by Tony in Mass. on September 27, 2012 at 19:47:42 from (

Yes, the horrible abuse... OK, self abuse? continues... I have a brain storm (?) watching Bill's CD for the 4th time, something you see and hear comes across stronger than on paper? Lately I have the time to attempt a better timing of the injector pump, oh it was waaay off.... I moved the gear by removing the timing gear casting from the block, and rolling the gear with a finger. Welding rod in the block/flywheel, pump sidecover off.. on letter B, rather than 'G'. Ok, she started- with ether of course, and ran, smoked, and stalled, it was still airbound. Too late to continue. So today I bleed the system end to end, started- with ether as usual, and ran, contiued to run, a bit of a throb, lots of power, still too much smoke for my taste. So I took the injectors out.
Last year I had a chore with a compression fitting, Dieseltech sends me the another line- and I popped off that one too! They all obviously fire, carboned up, a couple a bit oily on the outside, but I don't have a tester, so Monday I will see if a shop can check the spray pattern. The question is how much is ...acceptible? normal? destined for life???
Now, while it is on the dead track, I removed the lift cover, interesting accident we had. Cylinder has one deep scratch, looks old, browned, not a fresh gouge, the piston has a small chunk broken off, again, not a fresh break from a couple months ago, but oil stained from ages of soak. I found that piece in the base with a magnet on a stick. The only real recent damage... was two of the three snapped studs holding the cylinder to the cover. I will drill them out with the Bridgeport mill if there is no other cracks etc on the cyl.
Now, 2 questions. One, where the #$%^ is the 'relief valve'? In the base? on the pump? That is the only place left to look, since the fluid is still full. Second... is this an Achilles heal on this model? Since my '55 TO35 had such a bust up it must have took someone 3 or 4 hours to arc weld the damage, and they never fixed the levers properly. Apparently I dodged a bigger bullet than could have happened. Sorry, no pics, very boring so far anyway....


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