Posted by ss55 on January 31, 2012 at 19:11:45 from (173.26.32.153):
In Reply to: 856 Advise please. posted by flhr62 on January 31, 2012 at 02:57:54:
Hi Mark,
You asked for advice, so here another opinion, and maybe a little humor.
A disassembled tractor is definetly a basket case or a pig-in-a-poke, so just expect the worst and you won't be disapointed. Do you like puzzles? This could be a very big challenging puzzle unless you are already familiar with rebuilding an 856.
What is the market value of the tractor in fair working condition? If you need to make any money off it subtract two times the cost of parts and your labor combined to arrive at a maximum price to offer for it (contingencies always happen). Scrap price could be too much to pay for it.
Loader hours are hard on a tractor chassis compared to steady field work hours. The tractor is about 40 years old, the tachometer is probably not working or it has been replaced. Look for wear on the clutch and brake pedals and pivots, the shifters and linkages, the seat suspension, the front end steering, the drawbar and the 3-point hitch to estimate the hours on the tractor. Is the paint poor but original, or old? A low hour, long time owned tractor would not be recently repainted.
Since the tractor is split apart it will be harder or more expensive for you to load, unload, and move around. The same for the an unmounted loader.
The loader has some value. As for the tractor, the seller will have trouble getting anything over scrap metal price for the tractor unless he re-assembles it or he parts it out. If he just wants to get rid of the tractor he will be more than happy with scrap price since he won't have to haul it away. I would not expect him to spend much time hunting for every last part and manual for just scrap price though.
How long has the tractor been apart, are all the parts still there and are they still good? Are the clutch, TA, transmission, rear end, hydraulics, radiator and batteries still reliable? There is no easy way for you to verify that everything (or anything at all) is OK as claimed until you get it home and get it running again.
Did the rod bearing spin because a cylinder liner cavitated through and coolant mixed with the engine oil? If it did the other cylinder liners are probably in the same condition. To be safe, just figure the engine needs an overhaul or is junk. The current owner has probably already reached that same opinion or he would have finished it. Anything better than that is gravy for you.
Do you have the time and money to gamble on this tractor? Have you rebuilt an IH 361/407 engine before? The odds are against you making any money on it unless you can find a good engine to bolt into it. Do any IH combines use a 407 engine?
Perhaps it would be easier to justify buying the tractor as a hobby instead of as a capital investment? That way if you work on it for months or a year and it still turns south then at least you had fun!
As a hobby is the only way I could justify buying a tractor or any other machine that is disassembled. It's another 2 cents worth, more or less.
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