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Re: if you had your choice.


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Posted by RodInNS on July 18, 2010 at 05:19:01 from (216.118.158.123):

In Reply to: Re: if you had your choice. posted by MF Poor on July 18, 2010 at 02:46:21:

and the reason for emperical test data is to rule out what billybob said.... because billybob was a fan of one or the other tractor. If you look on Youtube you can find videos of a Fendt 930 hooked bar to bar with a large Kirovets FWD. The Kiro probably has several tonne of weight and a bunch of power on the Fendt (I'm assuming from the size of it)... yet the Fendt used some very carefull ballast placement, a high hitch point and the finesse in it's transmission controls to drag the big Ruski all around the yard on concrete. It really made the big tractor look foolish. Probably 90% of the reason for this was that the Fendt was hitched a good foot or more higher in the air and it was literally pulling most of the Kirovets ballast off it's rear.
If someone had changed the hitch points the Kirovets would have made mincemeat of the Fendt...
Just because someone can take those two tractors and set one up to it's advantage and the other to a distinct disadvantage... then turn around and say one is better than the other... it's pointless.
On the respective drawbar tests the Ford 3000/3600 outpulled the MF 135 by nearly 1000 pounds of pull when hooked to the same test car on the same concrete track, no doubt with the same test engineer supervising.
That's a reflection of available torque/power and the ballast to get it hooked. That's also a figure of nearly 20%. At the same time the Ford burned probably close to 20% more fuel.
So for the purpose of achieving maximum pull on a known comparable surface (concrete), the Ford wins hands down with the gearing and power it has. That's not to say that this particular gearing scheme is usefull for anything. Just that it can pull more at ~5 mph. If you used yours at 3 mph the comparison between them might be quite different. If you used different impliments or hitch points the result could be very different...But if the next guy wants to work the pair at 5 mph then the MF is going to get eaten for lunch...

Beyond that I can't see what major differences you see in them. They both have the same helpless brake system and light axles, nearly the same curb weight and wheelbase, much of the same poor Lucas elecrics because at their hearts, both are UK derived tractors.

Rod


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