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Posted by trucker 40 on May 08, 2010 at 06:47:17 from (70.240.149.155):

In Reply to: Re: DOT Numbers posted by PJH on May 07, 2010 at 23:24:38:

While thats true,all inspectors cant be idiots,I'll tell you a little of the story behind this one.I moved a track hoe for this contractor and saw what he had to deal with.It was a rough piece of property.Later when the job was finished I moved it again and saw that the contractor had done an excellent job.It took him about 2 weeks and it looked like a landscaped property and all he did was build an access road,just dirt work,no gravel.Back in the 1970s I worked for him and we did the same thing,but you could plainly see he did a good job.Back in the 1970s he might have cut corners when he was new at it,and surely would not have done much more than he had to,this work a few years ago was great.This idiot inspector wanted him to sweep some dirt with a shop broom.Now Im not a engineer or anything and have not worked in construction all of my life,but when you see quality work,hey no contractor is going to mind touching some of it up,if its necessary,but you dont try to exert your authority by trying to get him to be a servant.Its lucky that inspector isnt under that street now.The contractor ran him off the site and from what I could tell there was no reason for the inspector to even try that,just that he thought he could get away with it.

While what I said was covering a lot of ground,I bet 33 years ago you never pulled something like that,and if you did you would have probably been knocked out laying on the ground.Its not that people are Just a little out of the ordinary,maybe just learning the ropes.Its that,but these people coming up now think they are better than working people.Because they have authority makes them better and working people are just servants.
In the past nobody would put up with it.Now people will just lick their boots,and go broke,that is until this guy tried to pull that stuff on the wrong contractor.

Watch that show Swamp Loggers if you can.It shows a guy who is loosing his life savings because of the price of fuel.Hey ,he needs to raise his price for hauling,but do you think the people who buy the stuff will raise the price?Then they send him to a place nobody will work,and offer him a couple dollars a ton more?The whole industry has lost lots of people who just quit rather than put up with this stuff.

When fuel got so high I parked my truck,then sold it.I could get a fuel surcharge on outbound loads,and not on backhauls.I told my boss it was either fuel surcharge or I was not running the truck.Parked it for a while and tried it again.Surcharge on outbound,very little on backhauls.Well it was a surcharge,but not enough.I think they just raised the rate as much as they could and tried to call the extra a surcharge.40 dollars on a 1000 mile run wont buy much 3 dollar fuel.

Yeah there have to be some good guys out there,but there are a lot less of them now than 33 years ago and the population is higher.Good guys are on the near extinct side,cheap working idiots are everywhere and in every industry.

If everybody is seeing the same sort of problem in their business,a whole side of the industry that expects workers to be servants and go broke trying to work for a living,then yeah,its telling you that there are way more idiots than necessary.By you trying to say its not that way,then you are obviously not really looking at whats going on.Your answer may have been logical in the past,but now there is a lot of unbalance in the country from one side getting all the money and the workers loosing.Even the State is in on it with ridiculous regulations,which is what started this whole story.Its been like this ever since I started working in 1973.So when does the working side get anywhere?Also not trying to pick a fight with you either,but what makes you so special that you can decide whether a contractor makes money or not?Yeah some of your responsibility is probably grading the contractor,but that ought to be it.Some days are good,some days are bad for everybody.Ive seen lots of people have one screw up and loose everything.Im sure it might not mean so much to you being on the other side.Yeah life is not fair,but now its like its only going to get worse.Thats what its going to do until people stand up to that side of industry.You were probably a good guy.Nobody has trouble if people work together.You start treating one side better than the other and its not long before you better get a shovel if you want anything done.

I dont know how I could write this any clearer.Its obvious what has happened.Its so bad there almost is nothing left of the country we had 33 years ago.I dont know if anything is going to change except get worse is what worries me.I hope younger people quit putting up with this stuff and stand up to them.The mentality that there is nothing the working people can do is what caused this.All of us should go on strike and then what are your side people going to do?You can go to work,but if there are no contractors working they arent going to pay you very long and decide they dont need you.Then when work starts back up they will look for cheaper help.Just like every other industry.


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