cadet trooper said: (quoted from post at 19:42:38 03/23/10) OK folks, here's my take as the old saying goes or something like it. "Give someone a fish and they can eat for a day, teach them to fish and they can eat for a lifetime." I guess from being poor one time all I needed was an opportunity and of course since the new health plan I'll probably need another opportunity soon. :-<
I agree with you on the "no handouts, but teach people to be independent" philosophy. The problem is that I drive by those vacant areas that initiated this thread every day and see people sitting on the curbs drinking 40's. There is NOTHING stopping them from cleaning up those vacant lots right now and planting crops or just plain making THEIR neighborhood look better.
The problem is that the residents are looking for people to PROVIDE them with jobs. They want the $25/hr, 8 hour a day, UAW jobs with pensions, benefits and retirement after 30 yrs. After 8 hrs they want overtime and double time on Saturdays and Sundays. They don't want someone to "teach them how to fish".
I'm not a farmer but I've read enough posts by Allen in NE and billonthefarm to know that the typical urban dweller is not a good candidate to be a farm laborer.
Plus, the vacant land is not actually covered in "soil". It is mostly clay with broken glass, pieces of concrete, asphalt, rubbish, wood, shingles, pieces of steel, plastic mixed in and strewn all over the place. The ground actually sparkles when you walk across it from the pieces of broken glass. When they tear down a house, it's a mess and a bulldozer just levels the area after the demo is done.
I think there will be many urban planning books written on the "rise and fall" of Detroit. Eventually it will be transformed, but it will probably take generations to do it.
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