Posted by gun guru on November 14, 2008 at 15:20:25 from (68.188.232.38):
In Reply to: Unions Killing Detroit posted by IndianaRed on November 14, 2008 at 15:01:16:
I agree that the unions have it too good. But.....It takes 2 parties to make a contract stick. the car companies were dumb enough to give them almost everything they asked for. The car companies feared a strike, so what. Let them strike and then bring in people that need a job, there are lot of people that would work for $18/hour on an assembly line. And to make a statement on wages. I know for a fact that my father in law was making $26-27/hour for a skilled trades position, plus benefits---that was in 2003. I dont know where folks are getting the $75/hour figure. In most cases the benefits are about 40% of the workers compensation package. I agree that skilled trades guys like electricians, mechanics, pipefitters, machinists, millwrights and plant maint in general deserve a good wage like $25/hour and up. Just try to find a good machinist for $16/hour----You wont! I believe that the line workers should start at $17/hour and then up to $20/hour with experience and seniority. What grinds my A$$ with the unions is that they protect the screw ups and hardwork is not rewarded. Now for the comments on the salaried folks: They have it good--Right! In recent years management has been able to weed out these slackers. FACT: In the 1990's my sister shared a cube office with a guy that ran a travel agency out of his GM office, it took a while but management got rid of him. GM needs to say---Pay cuts for all like 15% until we are in the black again. Some employers have done this in innovative ways like----4 day work week, and you work 36 hours and get a 15% or 20% pay cut. (but you get a 3 day weekend) Or: Better flex time. I have a lot of my retirement money tied up in GM preferred stock and it sickens me that the company is run like schitt.
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