Re: Re: Re: Re: O.T. Mad Cow

Posted by dhermesc on January 02, 2004 at 06:17:30 from (65.141.163.8):

In Reply to: Re: Re: Re: O.T. Mad Cow posted by Dick in Ore. on January 01, 2004 at 22:02:03:

Where was USDA in that plant? I worked at IBP and more then once saw the entire place shut down so everyone could wash their equipment and change frocks because somebody got caught in the bathroom wiht their equipment on, let alone sh** being on the meat.

As for skinning cows alive I have some serious doubts about that, an animal kicking and twisting is extremely dangerous, let alone while you're attempting to skin it. Even if you accomplished it would be so much slower then skinning a properly "knocked" cow the second or two you gained would be lost in the extra time it to skin it.

Most of the problems you described sounds like stuff that happens as little plants with 20 or 30 employees. The big guys just don't screw with downer cows. At IBP there is no way a partially paralized cow would have made it into the holding pens, let alone into the plant. Cows with obvious problems (limps, lumps and even a bad eye) just don't make in, I always thought these ended up in dog food. A farmer selling such an animal usually is lucky to get 1/10 the price of a healthy animal. Even the little mom and pop processing plants won't mess with these (although I am surprised they will do deer). The mid range speciality plants must be getting away with murder to have these practises. Their "natural" products get you sick the old fasion way.

As for 50% turnover, I know IBP managed about 150% turnover every year, its hard, back breaking labor for low pay. When I was hired in 1986 I started with 30 people, three months later only 5 remained, a year later I was the only one. That was the average hiring every week in a plant of about a thousand employees.

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