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Re: Wee killer question.


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Posted by paul on September 17, 2003 at 10:47:53 from (206.10.55.65):

In Reply to: Wee killer question. posted by Fence on September 17, 2003 at 08:19:29:

You'll get a wide range of answers. I guess I'd be curious what your end goal is, before advising.

Sounds like you have a wide tangle of broadleaves that you want to get the heck rid of.

Glysophate (Roundup) will kill off most anything green, and at the right time of the year will translocate into the roots & kill most of it off for good. The key is to get the right time of the year, and then next year you will have a bare patch of ground around your fence - which is just perfect for new weeds to sprout up again & cause problems. This might be the way to go to tackle your current problem tho. Glysophate can be really hard on iron, repeated use can possibly rust out your fence a little quicker.

In future years or for lighter infestations I like Chris' receipe with one modification - use dicamba (Banvel, etc.) instead of the Roundup. (Actually I just use Banvel & 2,4D mixed, 8oz of each per acre - add as much water as you'd use on an acre - the extras make it a little more sticky which can be good for you, but bad for my corn.) This will then be a broadleaf killer with a couple of different modes of action, and it will last in the soil a few weeks to kill off some sprouting broadleaf seeds. Used for a few years, it will allow the grass to grow back into your fenceline, and you will be spraying less & less each year, getting good sod to grow. Again, timing is important, spring woulda been better than fall for most weeds, but here we are so might as well start now.

The 2,4D alone is very cheap, but does not translocate into the roots very well & will only burn off the tops of your broadleaves - will keep reappearing for several years.

The dicamba (it likes to drift, be careful near a garden!) costs more, but soaks into the root system a lot better.

The Roundup goes after the whole plant, but will kill your grass too, and may be harder on metal.

Many of the other weed/brush killers mentioned by brand name are actually mixes of 2,4D and dicamba sold for a higher price - check the labels. ;)

There is a big difference in 'strengths' of these products, from watered down ready-to-spray mixes for BIG $$$$ per dose, to home & garden concentrates that are still kinda weak & $$$, to the farm jugs that we are basing our mixing rates on.

Also, there is grazing & harvesting restrictions from 5 days to 2 weeks on these products. And, you are required by law to follow the labels, so what we are saying is just what works & is legal 'here' - might not be 'there.' Covering my butt. :)

In addition, the Society for Antidefimation of Short People might get really, really ticked at you....... ;) ;) ;)

--->Paul


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