Re: Re: Re: PTP...non live vs. live. vs. independa

Posted by paul on May 27, 2003 at 23:44:49 from (209.23.145.10):

In Reply to: Re: Re: PTP...non live vs. live. vs. independant? posted by JMS/MN on May 26, 2003 at 23:08:18:

I'm not familiar with Allis, other than my
Gleaners.

However, what you are saying is an
'independent' pto, like my Oliver or IHC 300.

Now here's the confusing part. 'Live pto' term
can be used for either the 2-stage clutch
system, or for the independent system.

There is the standard non-live pto. (Like my
IHC H tractor)

Live pto, which is either 2-stage, or
independent. (My Ford 960, 1720, 7700,
TW-20, Oliver s77, & IHC 300)

Independent. (Ford 7700, TW-20, Oliver s77, &
IHC 300)

And some like to sort out
hydralic-independent, as opposed to the
'standard' independent which runs with a dry
clutch you move with a lever. (Ford 7700 &
TW-20)

Really only important to know if it is live or not -
independent is slightly nicer than the 2-stage,
but in some cases (like spraying as I'm doing
now, or for post hole digging, and other odds
& ends) I actually prefer the 2-stage clutch
system, where my foot can control the pto. I
personally also dislike the hydraulic pto
systems, as you just can't feather them
properly. Either on or off, no in between.

--->Paul

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