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Posted by 330 Standard on March 23, 2021 at 06:59:00 from (198.70.164.145):

Ok folks I am a JD guy who over the last several years has been acquiring Farmall. I like the red tractors and in my area there are still a few that can be found at more reasonable prices than JD. No offense to anyone but so far I have not found the farmall resources for parts or information nearly as vast, well organized or accessible as JD. Here is where the frustration comes in. I have 3 tractors ( 2 super AV ??? and a Super C) and a bare engine block. Bare block is casting 251069R1 and by what I read is a C113. The super C should have the C123 and has a water pump.
Here is where the frustration comes in. I cant see the casting numbers on all of these well because they are behind the oil filter. I guess I could pull it to see but it that info still would not clear the mystery. One SAV has serial 340786 which by what I read makes it a 1953 and would be a late SAV and should have the C123 but it has no water pump. The block has been cobble welded below the distributor so to restore it needs to be replaced. What should be here????? 113 or 123 ????
The real head scratcher is the other SAV. No serial number on the seat bracket or bell housing and no indication a plate was ever in either place. It has SA sheet metal and a decal that says Super a but folks use the wrong decals all the time. SAV wheels in the back and regular wheels up front with car tires but long axle drops like an SAV and the square SAV or industrial front axle with the support that runs back to the engine block. It has water pump and if you stripped off all the extra stuff the block looks 113/123 but......... has a dipstick access cast into the block next to the oil filter housing and has an oil filler cap located on top of the governor/hydraulic area. I thought it might be a 100 high clear but what I see the engine doesn't match up to a 100 either due to the dipstick and filler cap on hydraulic pump. If I could at least find an indication of where a serial number plate was then that would help as the 100 plate is supposed to be on the bell housing. I'd like to restore these tractors since they appear to be high crops but I want to replace any improper parts someone may have used out of necessity just because they fit with the correct ones but I have to know where to start. I hope someone can alleviate the Farmall Frustration. Lack of information is not helping turn a green guy red.


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