Re: Building size?

Posted by The tractor vet on February 07, 2019 at 08:14:28 from (104.179.81.68):

In Reply to: Building size? posted by Lazy WP on February 07, 2019 at 05:16:04:

Before you dig or drill holes for this new building set down with pencil and paper and start figuring on how much room ya need . figure in work benches tool boxes oil drums small parts work area tire storage air compressor , welding area , small parts storage . Many years back i helped a buddy put up his building . Back then you could build one for chump change . He bought a steel building 40x72 x14 . I did the grading for the building he and i dug the footers and built the forms and poured the concrete , Our first mistake , we should have raised the foundation a foot higher for a certain wall so the building sat up off the floor a foot . We bolted that building together by hand . Next mistake was we did not get the insulation pkg for the building and install it first . We had it spray foamed a year later . We did not pour the floor till the third year and he and i did it ourselfs just the two of us , we split it down the middle and did half one day he and i poured something like 45 yds and worked it by hand with the trucks coming back to back (yea that was fun on a hot summer day ) . Let the first part cure up five days and our bodys somewhat recuperate and did the last part . We poured a FLOOR with a depth of 10 inches tappering to 6 at the walls with a floor drain towards the back tappering from the door to the drain and the back wall to the drain . We had wire in the floor . I did the wiring all in conduit with three rows running from the door to the back , lots of outlets along the walls a place for the big air compressor a welding area we had running water and a oold 24 inch coal furnace . We could back three semi dump outfits in with no problems and still have room to pull the cars or pick ups in to work on them and room for tire and oil drums and small parts storage . the third mistake was the sliding doors and the fact that you could get dump trailer, flat bed, lowboys step decks in but you could not get a box trailer in as it did not have the height and if we went with and over head door then we would have lots another foot in door height . The sliding doors were a pain in the drain when winter set in they would freeze around the bottom , snow would stop them from opening and ya had to dig them out . Yep we made many mistakes and after many years of seeing where we went wrong i now know how i would do one if i was to do it again. It would be a 50x80 x14 set up on a two foot certain wall with a 14 foot high door that was no less the 18 wide a second over head coming in off the side that was a 10x12 door your standard walkin and no less then two windows . The curtain walls with door opening made in and floor would be done first and finish graded around the building with a grade slope away form the building. Then the frame would go up and basic power would be on hand for POWER TOOLS , then the frame would go up . floor drains would be done at the same time as fopundatio work and water would be already installed along with the under ground power conduit . Then the insulation would go on and the steel would go on . A couple years back we priced out one like i am talking less the over head doors and the electric wiring figuring in the concrete building pkg it came to just awhisker shy of 38000 and this was a DIY deal every inch of the way , I called around on the best price on concrete had half dozen building prices with the upper end snow and wind loading above what my area called for . Now lighting and wiring here we would have to have the main box and one light and two plugs done by someone PROFESSIONAL to pass inspection once that was done then we could take it to the next level . Doors ?? never got that far along as life got in the way . As far as excavating we would have around 1200 in equipment rental . a far cry of what and excavator would want . case in point here a good friend and old customer was going to put up a new Composting cattle barn and needed dirt work done for the site , he got bids running from 13 grand to over 24 grand . He called me one day and wanted me to look at what he had in mind so i looked at it and said ok he said what would you need to do this . Told him i needed at least a D5 to D7 class dozer and five days , He said is that all i said yep and for compaction we will use your home made dump trailer filled with dirt and the 2255 to pack with . So we called around and got a steal of a deal on a new 750 J John Deere for a week and in four days time i had built hs 350 x450 pad with a cut and fill of a 9 foot cut and a 11 foot fill So for fur fill ups and a week rental plus the even knocked off more from the rental charge because the way we set the dozer back as it was full of fuel cleaned and greased with a bath and that when we needed to rent again we were on the preferred list and would get a bigger discount Vernon was happy , when the company came to put the foundation in the guy said will have to have our excavator come in a get this pad to grade as i can see that it is not level and Vernon questioned the guy and made him show him how far out it was. So this guy set up his lazer and proceeded to show him how bad it was out . He was in total shock to find that my grading was with in one inch over the whole pad and he said you excavator must had GPS grading on his dozer . Vernon told him Nope just and old fart that could run one by feel.

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