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Re: Orlando mass shooting


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Posted by NCWayne on June 13, 2016 at 06:54:46 from (173.188.169.54):

In Reply to: Re: Orlando mass shooting posted by oldtanker on June 13, 2016 at 06:15:48:

Read my comments below in regard to a little bit of what I do to train myself and my family.

That said, I agree, IF there is a way out, by all means take it. At the same time, you can't be afraid to use your weapon to protect yourself. The problem is a lot of people don't have the mental ability to think ahead to situations like that, and expect the unthinkable to happen. When it does, panic is all that they know. I have never actually been shot at (well, I have if accidentally counts) but I know just having someone draw on you, and being put in the position of knowing the situation can easily come down to you or them, puts things in a whole different perspective....at least it did for me.....

That aside, think about it this way. All it takes is one trained person with their own firearm to take down another. True, the other guy might be wearing body armor, etc, but that's where being able to keep your head, and insure your shot placement is accurate comes into play. Even then, the idea is to simply 'stop the threat', not necessarily go for a head shot and kill the guy.

That said, most people have as much of a misconception about body armor as they it as they do 'silencers'. By that I mean just because the bullet doesn't penetrate the vest doesn't mean the person doesn't feel the shot. In other words three or four shots, center mass, in quick succession, from say a 9mm, which routinely have in excess of 300 ftlbs or energy, might not kill them, but it would definitely knock them around and at least give someone the chance to restrain them. A lucky/missed shot, or a well placed shot to the arm, leg, or other non-vital, yet exposed area would also tend to have the desired effect.

Ultimately, the way I look at things it comes down to this. There was an Arthur back in the '40's I believe, named Robert A Heinlein who said, “An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” In other words, guys like this shooter, and others, have all purposefully chosen 'gun free' zones for their actions because they know there won't be any resistance.

When there is the possibility that they will be faced with a dozen guns being drawn in their face the second they pull theirs....they will be more likely to think twice before acting...... When out politicians go out of their way to insure THEY are the only ones protected and the rest of us are forced to be unarmed, in order not to become criminals ourselves, the criminals will still find arms, and we will not have the safe and harmonious utopia they say they crave. Just look at places like England where terrorist acts are far more common....and they are pushing for restrictions on even BB guns, and inactive wall hangers, to see the future if people like 'some of our current candidates' had their way.

I love it, you can't even type in 'her' name on here...it just comes up as 'link disallowed' when there was no link attached, just a name.......


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