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Re: Orlando mass shooting


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Posted by NCWayne on June 13, 2016 at 06:31:00 from (173.188.169.54):

In Reply to: Re: Orlando mass shooting posted by Greg1959 on June 12, 2016 at 22:24:37:

No, the closest I have ever come was to have a pistol pulled on me. My response was to draw mine, albeit a bit faster than the other guy, and tell him I would drop him where he stood if he continued with his present course of action. Thankfully the situation didn't escalate beyond that.

That being said the point I would assume your trying to make is mute. I say that because the majority of the officers everyone expects to 'save' them (especially in urban areas) have never been shot at before either.

That being the case, they do the same kinds of things I do. By that I mean I follow the same way of thinking put to us in the Navy. Train like you fight. In other words, put yourself into different situations both mentally and physically, and practice, practice, practice.

On that note, I would love to be able to practice more than I currently do. Unfortunately the panic buys created by the politicians, the import restrictions on surplus ammo, etc, etc, all make ammo a lot more expensive than it used to be. Common calibers like 5.56x45/.223 for the AR's, and 7.62x39 for the AK47, and 5.45x39 for the AK74 used to be readily available surplus, and priced less than $100 per 1000 rounds.....and we all know what's happened with .22........For many other of the 'hunting' calibers such as .303 British, 30/06, .30.30, etc, etc, your typically talking around a buck a round or more. Get into the pistol cartridges and it's not all that much better. Your still talking about 20 cents a round, or more for the common ones like .380, 9mm, .38 special,.357 magnum, .40, .45, etc etc.

Regardless, pistol or rifle, this gets expensive in a hurry. I know last time me, my wife, and our daughter went to the range, the round count for the day, through the long guns alone, was over 700 rounds. Thing is that was a slow day because we were all shooting at the longer ranges and going for accuracy -vs- just 'shooting for fun'. Even so, when your 13 year old daughter is going ping, ping, ping, ping, ping on a 10" steel plate, at 200 yards, as fast as she can pull the trigger, the ammo goes pretty fast. When your wife is doing some nice groups on the targets at 20 yards or so with a pistol, the same thing holds true.

Besides the cost of ammo needed to train more, places to shoot have become few and far between for many too. True, you can go to a range and 'punch holes' from a standing position behind a little bench, but it costs the heck out of you because of all the EPA guidelines, liability insurance costs, etc, etc, etc. In those types of places there's no practicing drawing and firing, or doing anything else that might become necessary in a real life situation outside the range.

Thankfully I have a few acres and a 70 yard range that's good enough to do what I want. When I feel the need to stretch my legs a bit, a group of us get together a few times a year and hit some of the not so local ranges that have anywhere from 200 to 400 yards.

Like I said before, I'm no Rambo by any stretch of the imagination, but I know from what I've seen, and been told by members of various police/sheriff's departments that most of those guys are lucky to shoot once a year to just to maintain their qualifications. Guess what, it's done at a range, doing nothing but punching holes in paper..............

So, who would you tend to trust more. The local cops, the average, or above average gun owner.............or no one at all???????


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