Posted by 01gentdc on January 19, 2016 at 18:55:18 from (184.16.175.177):
In Reply to: 2nd story addition posted by NY 986 on January 19, 2016 at 10:57:26:
it could work ,, did for us in 1984 ,, kinda , this is a long story ,that covers what I did .. history of house is like this ,, 1930, 2 rooms built over a coal cellar,34x16,/1940 house foot print increased 34 x32 ,,.dug out original basement and added more basement under addition ,consisting of dining room ,bathroom , bedroom , kitchen , with a 3/12pitch on one side and a 4/12, on front , sure made odd duck house,,. so I bought the whole place for 30 k ,with 2 barns and 27acres in 1984,tore out floor of basement and increased head room to 86 inches,got a 10 inch concrete curb all around base of 1930band 1940 walls rebared floor ,wall and curb holds perfectly //tore off the hideous roof in june and 2 weeks later had all dried in a bedroom suit and bath, upstairs centered over 60 percent of house,..what is unique about this house is that it transformed in one year as the ugliest house to the most beautiful house around ,.the center roof line runs opposite of original and has 8/12 pitch sitting on 3ft walls .the bedroom ceiling cathedral style and is nearly 15 ft hi in center.. one side upstairs has centered a 4/12 pitch shed slope over the 8ft bathroom dormer ,. then the existing pitch was corrected to 4/12 that vallyed and tied into into the lower ends of the new 8/12 pitch and made a nice cross gable roof line finish, .. all this load worked very well until 1990 when we came out 8 feet to both bedrooms downstairs this added about 200 sq ft to each bedroom and also 6x6 ft closets for each bedroom ,, essentially was a total length north wall addition , with 2ft inset for the closets ,with a 10/12 pitch round turrent in the girls bedroom complete with a circle raised ovaled ceiling . the boys bedrooms had a skylite and a3/12 cathedral ceiling in the new section ,.I knockt out the north bedroom walls on both bedrooms leaving about 12feet under the upstairs ,, the above bedroom floor cantilevered some 3 feet beyond the walls ,. , which kinda held the load just fine , but one day after about 3 years my wife heard a tremendous KApow ! I could not find the source, that winter I noticed crackt drywall corners in critical areas the 65 year old oak 2x8 basement beams were sagging somewhat,,. I jackt up the joists and stabilizes the basement ceiling supports ,, except for 3 extra support posts and a wall making a basement reading / game room ,, all is well downstairs ,, but the 12 ft north wall is begging to have 3feet of the wall restored to better handle the load ,,. the only indicater is the closet doors upstairs seem to drag a bit on the carpet ,. I kinda thought I was asking a lot out of the 60 yr old pine rafters and vertical oak 1x lumbers for the gable ends,. but I thought all would be forgiveable since it was MY HOUSE , and no one would sue me ,,. and to date all has been forgivable and workable,.probably a building inspector today would flag me,, but in all honesty in this county ,if no new footers are needed to expand the house footprint ,. one can still build a upstairs on to their home without a permit .. BUT, if a bank loan is involved that is what will trigger a building inspector ,,.and ritefully so ,.
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