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Re: 2nd story addition


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Posted by Mark - IN. on January 19, 2016 at 15:26:56 from (73.50.237.124):

In Reply to: Re: 2nd story addition posted by NY 986 on January 19, 2016 at 12:23:33:

Well, good luck just the same. People do it all of the time. A new house goes up, very few 2x6 wall studs, they are 2x4. Those floors overhead aren't 2x4's, they're 2x8 or 2x10 to support waterbeds, filled bathtubs, route plumbing, etc. Ad those walls up there are 2x4's supporting roofing trusses. I have no idea why I even questioned when my friend, a construction contractor by trade did it. That's how new homes are built, with supporting walls on the first floor, and either supporting walls or screw jacks for support in the basements for direct support under the first floor supporting walls that are under the second floor supporting walls that are under the roof trusses. Supporting exterior walls from the foundation up, supporting interior walls (and/or jacks) from the basement floor up to the roof trusses. That's important so have no sagging or collapsing.

I don't know how old you are, but do you remember a catastrophic accident during a New Year celebration, I think in Kansas City in the late '70's or early '80's at I believe a brand new Holiday Inn hotel? Was about Midnight and people were counting down, and they had the suspended walkways hanging from the roof, I think three or four stacked parallel over each other. As the night progressed, people began filling the walkways, standing around celebrating. Every person added weight, and as they filled up, suddenly it all collapsed hurting hundreds, killing a lot of people. When they looked into it, what had happened is that the walkways were designed so that there would be several huge rods, struts supported by the overhead roof trusses that were continuous from the trusses, through each walkway down to the lowest walkway. That's how it was engineered. The reason that it failed and collapsed was that the builder hung the highest walkway from the support strut, cut the strut, bolted it. Then hung the next walkway from the above walkway, not continuous from the roof as designed, and then the next walkway, and so on. The continuous struts from the ceiling supports down through and to the lowest walkway weren't there. When the builder cut the struts, threaded them, put nuts on to support the walkways, the next walkway hung required moving the strut over, and the next, and the next until when they got to the bottom, the struts were all offset and using only the flimsier, thinner metal of the walkway above them for support, and so on, and so on all the way up. By the time the support reached the top walkway, there wasn't much support from the top walkway rails. Put all of that human weight on all of those walkways, and struts for the top walkway to the roof supports held, but the struts for the supports to the second walkway just below the top, ripped through the top walkway metal, and down it all came hurting and killing a lot of people. My point? Continuous DIRECT support from the ground to the top, or from the top down if its hanging. People do it all of the time, and so long as its done correctly...

Mark


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