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Posted by RN on August 20, 2015 at 10:15:27 from (205.213.104.118):

In Reply to: Not Sure How To Title This posted by John B. on August 19, 2015 at 15:07:49:

Reality check for some will clean them up while supervised- maybe 20%. the stats for 5 years from CDC and justice dept are about 4 of 5 relapse. the hollywierd examples- think of Downy that plays Ironman movies- over a 10 year period had 3 jail and prison terms for violations of parole and odd possession charges before finally getting a 2 year detox in prison. He is moderately popular actor- but his contracts have a high liability insurance or producer assumes risk clause and in couple case he was working for minimum union scale with a 'bonus %' after 2 years from movie release just in case of a relapse or arrest- think of the Ali McBeal show where he was written out 1/2 way through the season because of the pending prison term, they had about a week to write a quick leaving show script and get it shot before short out on appeal time after conviction. This is the public example of what people might have to put up with when dealing or working with addicts. A couple outfits have a high cure or no more hassle rate- but their solution for the addict is a one warning, mess up and you're DEAD- not going to rehab or prison, DEAD as in shot and buried or found in river. They have a better than 50% 'cure' rate for 5 years after some examples given- problem is various law enforcement people are after them for the 'cures' as well as other activities that they don't want a addict to make a deal with law enforcement when caught holding. Druggie dealers fit into 'M'Kashapah' class in Bible and they shall not be allowed to live. Translation to 'witch' is a little off from the Arahmic through Greek 'pharmakoi' to 16th century or so English 'witch'- a few more modern translations use the term 'sorcerer' or 'poisoner' and as 'poisoner' the meaning gets clearer about the penalty. Detroit and Atlanta 'Deacons of Justice' couple years back where investigated some by DEA for the loss of some informants that had turned in some other dealers and possible money men. Implication was some of the DEA or Police information made it to the deacons or church members and the suspected suppliers disappeared before arrest- but some bodies showed up later and a few of their informants were telling stories of suppliers being hung in front of a couple of first time caught addicts as a lesson. Years back in Chicago rumor has it a police officer left a couple files in interview room with a biker being interviewed about his knowledge of drug gang coming into area that had threatened members of biker's family- files had address where suspected gang was meeting or maybe living. 2 weeks later 4 members of the drug gang were shot from roof of building across the alley, another one was hit in bar by another biker club member, 6th was taken out with shotgun at another site listed in files and 2 others at that site disappeared until pulled out of Calumet Harbor. Wood Street district had Catholic Church associated 'social group' tell some drug dealers they weren't allowed to operate there- and 3 of the drug dealers found dead a week later. slowed down some dealing awhile and some of the addicts get 'sponsored' by the anti drug activists with the simple 'do drugs again and we find out, you're as dead as this guy you see laying in front of you' - and we and other church members are watching you. Problem for government with these groups is they are a threat to the government agents job security. (Sarcasm Alert!). RN

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