Sounds like you need some lessons in geometry. To start with the bucket cylinders have a stroke of 63.5 mm. the same as the lift cylinders. If your bale spear has boom mounting pins the same distance from the back of the spear, as the dump cylinder pins, It ain't going to roll back correctly. See my pic and notice that the boom mtg pins are extended further back from the bucket than the dump cylinder pins. As I said, everything boils down to geometry on loaders. If you decide to extend the boom pin location back, you will also need to move it up just s bit also to corespond with the radius of the pin arcs. Loren
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