Re: OT 22 lr cal target groups?

Posted by Bret4207 on December 16, 2012 at 12:02:09 from (64.19.90.196):

In Reply to: OT 22 lr cal target groups? posted by JF in CT on December 15, 2012 at 17:05:46:

I looked through several pages attempting to determine the requirements for Army snipers with no joy. I'm sure they are good, but the 1.43" @1K yards appears to be THE record and it's not held by a military shooter as far as I can find. 1.43" is a lot different than the 9" kill zone on a human target. I've shot at 1K yards at the standard target for that range which I believe is about 10 feet square. Let's just say no one is in certain danger from me at that range, mostly due to wind drift as my dispersion was mostly lateral. At any rate, I'll leave the bragging to others.

JF- You don't need to "lock the rifle down to a bench". You simply need a solid support for the rifle and you. As far as your rifle, if I understand you made a lead filled barrel sleeve to fit over a production barrel, put it in a non-bedded stock held by a single screw and are using the standard grooved receiver rings and a Walmart scope with bulk 22 ammo? I mean absolutely no offense, but 3" at 50 or 75 yards might be all you'll get. To start with you have an inexpensive action and barrel of no special quality and, IIRC, a sliding fit action/barrel junction which is pinned. Then you put a heavy tube over it, filled it with melted lead, and depended on the single action screw alone to hold it steady in the unbedded stock. Then you put an inexpensive scope in the groove type mounts and wonder why you aren't getting tight groups. There's a very good possibility that your set up is moving within the stock at every shot to start with and that the barrel is in torsion just sitting there. In short, I like your stock, but you might want to rethink the rest of it.

I have a Winchester 52 similar to GVSII, mines a 5 digit ser# IIRC, wearing a 6x Lyman Junior Target spot. At 50 yards with select ammo I expect 10 shots in a ragged cluster under an inch. At 100....on a still day with no mirage, maybe it would shade an inch, but something in the 1.5" area might be more like it. With standard bulk 22 I'd be happy with 2.5" and if the breeze is up closer to 3-3.5 and I wouldn't be surprised if the groups were a little bigger. Both my Remington 511s would be doing good to stay in the 1.25-1.5" at 50-60 yards off a bench for 10 shot groups and they are good rifles. My 10-22 will add 3/4" to that. Yes, I'll get 5 shot groups down under and inch from time to time, but I think 10 shots tells the truth better and 25-50 shots is even more so.

I don't know what to tell you about your gun. For popping gophers out to 75 yards or so I'd find a nice 22 lr that fit me and put a decent sighting system on it in Weaver style mounts. Then I'd pick up a variety os 22 ammo and see what shoots best. Practice, practice, practice.

This post was edited by Bret4207 at 12:02:50 12/16/12.

Replies:

• Re: OT 22 lr cal target groups? JF in CT 14:27:46 12/16/12 (4)
  • Re: OT 22 lr cal target groups? MarkB_MI 02:32:43 12/17/12 (0)
  • Re: OT 22 lr cal target groups? Bret4207 18:59:58 12/16/12 (0)
  • Re: OT 22 lr cal target groups? Greg1959 16:00:48 12/16/12 (0)
  • Re: OT 22 lr cal target groups? da.bees 14:38:36 12/16/12 (0)

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