Welcome! Please use the navigational links to explore our website.
PartsASAP LogoCompany Logo (800) 853-2651

Shop Now

   Allis Chalmers Case Farmall IH Ford 8N,9N,2N Ford
   Ferguson John Deere Massey Ferguson Minn. Moline Oliver
 
Marketplace
Classified Ads
Photo Ads
Tractor Parts
Salvage

Community
Discussion Forums
Project Journals
Your Stories
Events Calendar
Hauling Schedule

Galleries
Tractor Photos
Implement Photos
Vintage Photos
Help Identify
Parts & Pieces
Stuck & Troubled
Vintage Ads
Community Album
Photo Ad Archives

Research & Info
Articles
Tractor Registry
Tip of the Day
Safety Cartoons
Tractor Values
Serial Numbers
Tune-Up Guide
Paint Codes
List Prices
Production Nbrs
Tune-Up Specs
Torque Values
3-Point Specs
Glossary

Miscellaneous
Tractor Games
Just For Kids
Virtual Show
Museum Guide
Memorial Page
Feedback Form

Yesterday's Tractors Facebook Page

  
Tractor Talk Discussion Board

Re: Why I avoid Mother Deere


[ Expand ] [ View Replies ] [ Add a Reply ] [ Return to Forum ]

Posted by JDseller on July 27, 2012 at 23:11:04 from (208.126.196.144):

In Reply to: Re: Why I avoid Mother Deere posted by NCWayne on July 27, 2012 at 08:24:37:

NCWayne you are talking about stuff you actually know very little about.

Yes there are recommended stacking levels on JD parts but it is up to each dealer to decide what he wants to keep. He does have to keep a percentage of his new equipment sales amount in parts. JD DOES NOT tell him what parts he has to keep just how many dollars is a minimum. Most dealers have no trouble keeping way more than that in parts inventory.

The different equipment is under different contracts. You DO NOT pay a royalty for each contract at JD. I did the JD settlements at the last store I worked at. I saw every dollar that was paid to JD from that store. There never was any kind of royalty paid for any of the different contracts. There are requirements to keep the contracts. Like selling a certain market share in your sales area and having a certain dollar amount in cash reserves. Also you have to have trained service, sales ,and parts staff with JD certifications to keep your contracts.

As for the need for the different contracts. I support them being different. You don't think about what is cost in man power and parts inventory to service each contract. There are only 2-3 sprayer dealers in each state. The parts inventory requirement is over 500K just for that line of equipment. Then the guys that service them have to have completely different training than the normal tractor guys for the stuff other than the engines. Work site products (skid steers) are the same way. The numbers are not as big but not every dealer has the parts and people to have the contract.

Let me tell you what caused the different contracts to come about. Up until about 1975 there where no different contracts. You could sell anything JD made. They first split out the industrial stuff when they started to get more serious in that business. When it was just a few models of back hoes and maybe two crawlers then they did not need different dealers. Things changes and they needed to have more specialized dealerships.

Then they also had the problem of having too many dealerships. Back when the two bangers where new, there where a lot more farms than there are today. So they needed more dealerships back then.

There was a dealer close to us in the mid 1980s that was an old dealer that had never sold much stuff. 4-5 tractors each year and maybe a baler or two that was it. He did very little repair work either. Kept almost zero parts too. The old man died and his son took over. The son would sell you anything for $500 over dealer cost. If it was something smaller that you wanted to put together yourself then he would go even cheaper. They could not even put together a six row corn planter because they could not get it out their shop door. He started selling forty to fifty tractors each year. He tried to sell combines but the territory manager would not let him order them. They could not have set one up at the time. So for about ten years he drove the profit out of the whole area for new equipment sales. He also never kept anything in stock either it was sold orders only. He only paid his help $5 an hour. So he had no one that could work on any thing and half the stuff they sold was setup wrong. So the neighboring dealers all got stuck doing his warranty work and fixing the setup problems.

This dealer was not the only one doing this. JD could see that this was bad for long term business. So they came out with all new contracts that split things up and had written requirements to keep each contract. They did not let many of the old dealers get the new contracts. They usually would let them be an CP dealer but no longer AG. This was the start of the dealership consolidation.

I don't like the big multi store supper chains but the single stand along dealers are having trouble making enough profit to stay open.


Replies:




Add a Reply

:
:
:

:

:

:

:

:

:

Advanced Posting Options

: If you check this box, email will be sent to you whenever someone replies to this message. Your email address must be entered above to receive notification. This notification will be cancelled automatically after 2 weeks.



 
Advanced Posting Tools
  Upload Photo  Select Gallery Photo  Attach Serial # List 
Return to Post 

TRACTOR PARTS TRACTOR MANUALS
We sell tractor parts!  We have the parts you need to repair your tractor - the right parts. Our low prices and years of research make us your best choice when you need parts. Shop Online Today. [ About Us ]

Home  |  Forums


Today's Featured Article - Third Brush Generators - by Chris Pratt. While I love straightening sheet metal, cleaning, and painting old tractors, I use every excuse to avoid working on the on the electrics. I find the whole process sheer mystery. I have picked up and attempted to read every auto and farm electrics book with no improvement in the situation. They all seem to start with a chapter entitled "Theory of Electricity". After a few paragraphs I usually close the book and go back to banging out dents. A good friend and I were recently discussing our tractor electrical systems when he stated "I figure it all comes back to applying Ohms Law". At this point ... [Read Article]

Latest Ad: John Deere B 1943 [More Ads]

Copyright © 1997-2024 Yesterday's Tractor Co.

All Rights Reserved. Reproduction of any part of this website, including design and content, without written permission is strictly prohibited. Trade Marks and Trade Names contained and used in this Website are those of others, and are used in this Website in a descriptive sense to refer to the products of others. Use of this Web site constitutes acceptance of our User Agreement and Privacy Policy

TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. None of these trademark holders are affiliated with Yesterday's Tractor Co., our products, or our website nor are we sponsored by them. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Agco, Agco Allis, White, Massey Ferguson and their logos are the registered trademarks of AGCO Corporation. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V.

Yesterday's Tractors - Antique Tractor Headquarters

Website Accessibility Policy