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All this talk about the TSA


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Posted by NCWayne on February 11, 2012 at 09:09:42 from (69.40.232.132):

All the discussions about the TSA, airport/airplane security, etc got me to thinking about better ways to prevent terrorism onboard an aircraft. I remember one of our Founding Fathers making a comment at some point about an, 'an armed society being a polite society'. That said why not simply issue every passanger getting on board a single shot beanbag launcher, and one of the zip tie like flex cuffs like the police use nowdays. The launcher wouldn't have to be any larger than a flare gun, and with the new composite plastics being made wouldn't amount to much weight even for enough to arm a whole plane....and just mount one imbedded into every deat back, just behind the 'dinner tray'. Yeah, I know, many don't have the common sense to use them but I still believe the number of people that do far outnumber those that don't....and those that do would also have the means to take care of those that didn't. Too, those that didn't should have the knowledge that they were in the minority and therefore the incentive to toe the line..but if they didn't, see the previous part about those that do....

I've seen and heard how effective the beanbag round, or two, can be when it comes to subduing someone, and they aren't lethal, so why not?

I mean seriously, if some 'terrorist'/ or want-to-be started spouting off his crap, and then pulled his weapon, he'd be up the creek. I guarantee he'd get hit with at least one bag just as soon someone registered what was being done and could pull the trigger, and I feel sure there would be at least several others fired about the same time. Once he's lying in the aisle, subdued, he's no longer a threat to anyone. Too the beanbag isn't going to puncture the walls of the plane, and/or cause any fatal casualities to an innocent passanger if someone missed with a shot. In other words it's the perfect weapon for aircraft defense while in flight

Granted if he has a bomb of some type then he might be a it more of a threat. Then again with the mentality of todays terriorists if he has the bomb then he plans to use, and it comes down to a matter of survival...Take him out before he takes everyone out...... Thing is with the technology available nowdays when it comes to explosive detection devices, it would be so much easier to walk unmolested through a sniffer, regardless of wether you had a pocket knife or not, and let your bags run through a sniffer also, than the current crap they put everyone through.

The way I see it anything can be a weapon if you want it to be, ask any prisoner who has been behind bars for awhile. I mean seriously they let you on with keys but keys are a heck of a weapon. They let you onboard with socks, but conbine the keys and a sock and you've got one heck of a sap. You can easily stab someone with the earpiece off of a pair of glasses, or slice them with a broken lense as easily as you could with a knife. In other words what most consider weapons, like a pocket knife, are considered tools by some of us, but can easily be turned into weapons. By the same token what may others see as 'tools'/simple, safe, everyday objects can also be turned into a weapon with a little thought from someone so inclined.

So, why not eliminate all of the BS and simply take out the terrorist/terriorists if they do manage to make it onboard, like has already been proven will happen even with the the extreem measures already in place. Don't know about you but I wouldn't want to be on a plane that knowing I just threatened to kill everyone, and everyone I had just threatened had the means to retaliate against me. Ten to one, twenty to one, two hundred to one, none of those sound like winning odds to me, but that's what most would-be-terrorists would be facing, at a minimum.

But I guess turning the tables on the criminals and turning the odds in favor or the honest folk makes more sense, and regulating the honest folk where the odds are turned against them does...and when does our nanny state nowdays do much of anything that makes real sense????


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