Posted by Paul in MN on January 17, 2012 at 14:12:03 from (174.20.143.237):
In Reply to: Re: Kicker ? posted by rrlund on January 17, 2012 at 08:50:14:
And if it is the pan type thrower, like the JD #30, it also uses the ~300 lb flywheel momentum to throw the bale. The thrower's hydraulic pump is V-belted to the flywheel, and does not shock the baler's driveline and PTO like the prior mechanical thrower did. The mechanical thrower was an option on the JD #24 baler, and was very hard on the baler and tractor.
NH's pan thrower is similar to the JD one, and they leased the rights to build it from JD. From what I have seen of neighbor's NH belt throwers, I would not own one. The pan thrower will load a wagon much fuller. Son and I do about 25,000 bales per year with 2 balers with throwers and 11 cage wagons. Our highest day's output this past season was 2,000 bales in one day. A 9 X 16 wagon with chains above the front gate will hold ~ 130 bales as thrown by the pan thrower.
One consideration re tractor size is its weight. the weight of the thrower plus a full wagon will push a smaller tractor uncontrollably down hill in the field, especially if the hay is slippery. Back in the 80's, we used a 40 Hp tractor on the baler with a chute and one guy on the wagon, pulling bales and stacking. But too many times the weight of the load would push the tractor and baler, until everything was accordianed up. I was afraid of killing my son who was on the wagon. We went a bit oversize and got into the 100 Hp tractor size, but we surely do not need that much Hp, but the weight and resultant traction gives us a good safety margin. And with the thrower baler, nobody works on the wagon now.
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