Kicker ?

So I know my 1965 ford 4000 can run any 200 series NH baler fine but I'd like to put a kicker on my 275. Tractor is a gas 3 cylinder 4000 about 46hp on the pto. Do you think it can handle the kicker?

Yes.I had one on a 275. Pulled it with a 35 horse Oliver 77. If it's the belt type,it has a flywheel on it to keep up the momentum when it spits a bale anyway.

hey thanks a lot I'll start looking for a kicker then. I'm getting tired of leaving them on the ground then going back and picking them up. its a lot of work for a one man operation.

And if it is the pan type thrower, like the JD #30, it also uses the ~300 lb flywheel momentum to throw the bale. The thrower's hydraulic pump is V-belted to the flywheel, and does not shock the baler's driveline and PTO like the prior mechanical thrower did. The mechanical thrower was an option on the JD #24 baler, and was very hard on the baler and tractor.

NH's pan thrower is similar to the JD one, and they leased the rights to build it from JD. From what I have seen of neighbor's NH belt throwers, I would not own one. The pan thrower will load a wagon much fuller. Son and I do about 25,000 bales per year with 2 balers with throwers and 11 cage wagons. Our highest day's output this past season was 2,000 bales in one day. A 9 X 16 wagon with chains above the front gate will hold ~ 130 bales as thrown by the pan thrower.

One consideration re tractor size is its weight. the weight of the thrower plus a full wagon will push a smaller tractor uncontrollably down hill in the field, especially if the hay is slippery. Back in the 80's, we used a 40 Hp tractor on the baler with a chute and one guy on the wagon, pulling bales and stacking. But too many times the weight of the load would push the tractor and baler, until everything was accordianed up. I was afraid of killing my son who was on the wagon. We went a bit oversize and got into the 100 Hp tractor size, but we surely do not need that much Hp, but the weight and resultant traction gives us a good safety margin. And with the thrower baler, nobody works on the wagon now.

Paul in MN

Don't know that baler but we pulled a IHC No. 46 baler with a kicker with a 28 horse John Deere B.

The tractor has full set of front weights and liquid rears it weighs as is between 7500-8000lbs is this enough?

Are you pulling a wagon now? If you are pulling a wagon now a thrower will make very little difference.Be careful with a loaded wagon on hills,going down would concern me more than up.You should have plenty of power for baler,thrower and a reasonable size load.(100-130 bales)

Spent many a summer day ranking hay in kicker wagons behind a Ford 3000. We ranked it so you could get 280 bales on the wagon.

Only once did we have a problem, started to rain so the baler operater started a full throttle run down hill to the barn with all in tow, and full wagon. He tried to slow down for the turn on the wet pasture and got sideways. Steered out of it and we made it there safely.