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Re: Need some reasoning/logic


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Posted by John T Country Lawyer on May 19, 2011 at 05:10:40 from (173.243.189.183):

In Reply to: Re: Need some reasoning/logic posted by sws55 on May 19, 2011 at 03:20:42:

EXCELLENT ANALYSIS, Im BOTH and Engineer (have rendered expert testimony) and a Lawyer and have a few thoughts.

You sort of nailed it right in your closing in that MOST LAWYERS ARE NOTTTTTTTTT ENGINEERS and while they may be trained in the law, they have NO CLUE about practical engineering and its application in the real world.

You and I (plus about any lay person) understand how being restrained inside a protective enclosure (a true ROP System) is safe and engineering sound, but some bright legal eagle (or some bureaucrat) who doesnt know beans about anything besides the law must not if they insist on a seat belt in a non ROPS tractor where a person has a better chance of avoiding harm if they are not restrained (and sticking out where a roll over crushes them). Im talking about old row crop tractors where the seat puts the operator up in about the worst possible position if hes tied in way up there.

TALK ABOUT LAW SUITS AND LIABILITY

You know if I was representing the widow of a guy who got killed when his tractor rolled over and he was crushed because he was restrained by a seat belt ID BE LOOKING FOR THE DUDE WHO MADE HIM WEAR IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TO SIMPLIFY YOUR EXCELLENT DESCRIPTION

Restraint GOOD if inside a ROP structure, Restraint BAD way up high and exposed when the tractor rolls over without any ROP cage to protect you from being crushed.

I was fortunate in that I didnt attend law school unitl I was over 40 and already had a "real life" prior to that as an engineer and farmer. I saw many bright students with no prior work or life experiences get thrust into the litigious dog eat dog lifestyle and I was sooooooo happy I didnt have to do that for a living whewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. Many had studied literature or political science etc and never had a job or many life experiences so it shouldnt be surprising they arent well versed in engineering concepts WELL DUH..........

Fun chat and you provided sound engineering reasons for the poster, but we all know logic and reasoning doesnt count for much up against a bureaucrat or egg head lol....

God Bless yall and keep safe. Im headed to the Norman Station Indiana Bluegrass Festival a few days to pick at my old banjo wooooooo hoooooooo "Goin up Cripple Creek goin in a run, goin up Cripple Creek gonna have a little fun"

Ol John T BSEE, JD "Country Lawyer"


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