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Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the store

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Farmallb

04-17-2008 17:08:14

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I love milk, but cant afford to buy it, Eggs now either. Ive never bought an egg in my life, and sure dont intend to do so now. That would be a sure sign of old age, I Dont know if veggies have gone much much, but meat, milk and eggs sure have

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Sid

04-20-2008 12:58:07

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to Farmallb, 04-17-2008 17:08:14

I'd be willing to bet if you dropped your internet service, you'd be able to buy quite a bit of milk.

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phillip d

04-20-2008 18:12:49

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to Sid, 04-20-2008 12:58:07

Lol! AAAAAh $h!t,you must be one of us farmers too to think like that lol!

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Sid

04-20-2008 12:57:43

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to Farmallb, 04-17-2008 17:08:14

I'd be willing to bet if you dropped your internet service, you'd be able to buy quite a bit of milk.

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Old Iron

04-19-2008 11:36:10

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to Farmallb, 04-17-2008 17:08:14

Don't some people realize that the "middle-man", and "grocier", also have huge expenses? A cup of wheat/corn, or a gallon of milk, sold by a farmer (or, dairy) DOESN'T just magicaly appear as a "finished product" on the super market's shelf. I'm sure there are a lot of expenses involved in getting it there, and just like most anything else, the "raw product" is usualy the LEAST EXPENSIVE item in the entire process.

Most food items also has a "shelf-life", and once it expires, the product must be "thrown away" if it doesn't get sold in the alloted time-frame, so the "PRICE" of those products on the shelf have to be adjusted to include that loss.

I'm sure that any "big farmer" worth his salt, could probably sell his many hunderds of acres of land, all his big fancy farm equipment, all his livestock, and etc.,... and have enough money from the sale to go into the "grocery business" if he wanted to,... but then,... "WHO" would "HE" complain to, if he didn't think his "income" amounted to what he thinks it SHOULD be???? :lol:

"LIFE" is full of choices,.... and if any of us aren't happy being farmers,... then there is nothing preventing us from picking some other occupation in life.

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Larry59

04-18-2008 17:50:41

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to Farmallb, 04-17-2008 17:08:14

I sold all of my chickens to a friend last year. He wanted eggs and he got them. LOL Now he sales the to me for 1.00 dozen and I like that. I also have a friend who is into milking and I get a real nice gallow of milk for 2.00 and a pound of real butter for 2.00. For which I am happy to get all for the cost. Very fresh and good. As for the mention of the middle man. I find that to be very true. For if the farmer would get that money I would be very happy to give it anytime. They are the back bone in this Country of Ours.

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phillip d

04-19-2008 05:15:06

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to Larry59, 04-18-2008 17:50:41

You said it!It is quite simple.Just look at the super markets,many of them are new,which is great.Setting on expensive real estate,which is also fine.All have employees and managers which is required.All of the big chains have stocks on the market,when they are up,investors make money,reality of business.All of it needs to be trucked and so on.The shopper puts out all of the end money,and the large majority of it gets spent at the retailing part of the chain.The leftover goes to the producer,which is all taken away to quickly rising input costs and intrest at the banks.

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Dave from MN

04-18-2008 07:29:49

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to Farmallb, 04-17-2008 17:08:14

Well, I would expect meat prices to climb. I am a poultry grower and with $6 corn and the fuel prices, most poultry companies are trying to keep the price but are looking at another year of no profit. I am sorry but to keep these companies afloat so that we have affordable food in the future, I say they need to raise their prices to atleast make a 3% profit margin. We can not let a conditioned expectation of cheap food supply, cause the US meat industry to buckle like the manufacturing industry has. Chuckle me to see people at the local establishment complain about $4 GALLON of milk, while the slam a $4.50 1oz booze/4 oz pop drink in about 30 seconds, and do this 10 more time before they buy a $5 pack of smokes and head to Burger King for a $5 bacon cheaseburger. I bought a hog the other day, farmer wanted $.45 a pound live weight, I paid him $.50 and added 20# to what the weight actually was, I still have cheap pork, and Gol Darnit he deserved at least that.

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phillip d

04-18-2008 16:08:29

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to Dave from MN, 04-18-2008 07:29:49

God bless you Dave.If everyone would help farmers and be happy about it like you,it sure would be alot easier on all of us.When BSE hit here,it quickly became a big market for beef farmers to peddle as many beef sides as they could.Sood died off,many "customers" would gladly receive the meat and say"I can't pay you today,but I can in a couple of weeks,I promise".You can likely guess that far too often they never got paid. As farmers we can sterotypicalize our customers as beeing gambeling/smoking/alcoholics.Things are getting tough on them as well.Gas prices,home heating and groceries are hard to pay for in todays markets.They see our tractors,land bases,buildings and so on and see us as rich and find it hard to understand why we are suffering.Just as I often complain about escalating feed prices killing our milk cheques.But to the grain and bean farmers,they deserve to finally get a closer to fair price for what they grow.I just hope our turn soon comes before it is too late.pd.

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phillip d

04-17-2008 17:28:31

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to Farmallb, 04-17-2008 17:08:14

Now that they have found a way to make gassoline out of our food,we may as well get used to it.

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IaGary

04-17-2008 17:53:54

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to phillip d, 04-17-2008 17:28:31

Funny part about this guys is the guy raising the eggs and the milk is not getting much more for it on his end than he did 3 years ago.

Blame the middle man.

There is 16 cents of grain in a $3.00 box of cereal 3 years ago. Today there is 40 cents of grain in that same box. But the box now costs $4.50. Where did the price increase come from? Not the farmer he only got .24 of that $1.50

Beef and pork prices paid to the farmer are 10%+ lower than a year ago. So don't blame higher prices on the farmer for meat prices.

As far as food for fuel. Us farmers will never let you starve. You have had the cheapest food in the world forever. And you will always have enough to eat. We will not burn it all. Just enough to make a living and allow you to eat.

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phillip d

04-18-2008 05:28:02

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to IaGary, 04-17-2008 17:53:54

I know all about it Gary.We milk 65 cows,milk price has gone up 10 % at the mailbox in the last 5 years,costs have on average doubled.Highway diesel just went up to $1.25 per liter.I will not be able to keep doing my part to keep feeding people if I go broke.Feed costs went from 150 for corn to 250 a metric tonne,soy went from 380 to 525,fert went from 400 to 535,another 200 added on to that forcasted for next year,the math just does not work.Most of the pork guys are done here,beef is quickly on it's way out and us "saved by supply managment" guys are in a choke hold by the supply managment commities refuesal to adjust prices accordingly.

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IaGary

04-18-2008 05:40:03

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to phillip d, 04-18-2008 05:28:02

That's the sad part until things balance out for the livestock guy, things will be tuff.

But why when you got a 10% increase does milk go up 30% in the store?

Gary

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phillip d

04-18-2008 08:15:49

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to IaGary, 04-18-2008 05:40:03

The other 20% goes to increased trucking/processing costs,seems like everyone else gets paid first,farmers get paid last.

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Wesley Stephens

04-17-2008 19:00:10

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to IaGary, 04-17-2008 17:53:54

I sell a lot of started pullets here in NC to people who want to shift toward having home flocks for eggs. They are not really doing it for economic reasons for the most part, but expensive eggs make keeping your own chickens and having better quality eggs more practical.

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36 coupe

05-29-2008 04:56:57

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Re: Guess somma ya havent priced milk and eggs inna the s... in reply to Wesley Stephens, 04-17-2008 19:00:10

Most people are to lazy to buy direct from the farmer.Ive always kept hens and kept a milk cow for many years.I cut way down on my hens this year. people pay double for eggs, milk and produce in a supermarket.Impossible to buy started pullets here.I would build a new hen house and keep 100 hens IF customers were dependable.Feed costs are very high here but it could still be profitable if customers who know the difference between fresh and month old eggs would buy on a regular basis.My mother alway bought eggs from a poultry farm close to us when she didnt have a few hens.I worked on nearby dairy and poultry farms growing up.Free milk and eggs were part of the pay.That last hatchery I worked on gave me 3 dozen eggs a week and I could have had more if needed.

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