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Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation

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lilnoki

05-19-2008 20:46:36




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I'm getting tired of my problematic old gas tractors. I'm considering going newer, and diesel. From what I've heard the Kubota tractors are very reliable and good starting, even in cold weather. I found a 3300 and it says it has a four cylinder diesel. I thought most were 3 cylinder diesels? I've heard 3 cylinder diesels are very fuel efficient - is it true? What about this 4 cylinder?

Thanks

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lilnoki

05-28-2008 19:42:53




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
WOW, what a discussion. Thanks for all the info everyone. Sorry it took so long to reply but I was out of town.

I guess nothing is ever black and white. I think a good point was brought up about getting the right tractor for how you will use it. Sounds to me like the Kubota is a good utility tractor, but not necessarily a good farm tractor. I still like my old 861 Ford (grow up with the same tractor) but the occasional need to have the mechanic keep it running without missing and losing power is annoying. As far as how I use it I want it all. I mow grass and till the garden, but also do a little hobbie farming so I pull the plow, the disk and the baler. It is still a good old farm tractor.

Thanks again.

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TX656

05-20-2008 20:48:21




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
I've had an L3300 GST for about 7 years. Bought it with about 500 hours on it, only put about 500 hours on it since. Absolutely love it. So glad my wife STRONGLY suggested we wait until we could afford it and a loader vs. an 8N or Ferguson. (I still really want a Ferguson 30).

Mechanically I've had to replace the internal 3 pt hitch connecting rod and tighten up the bolts around the clutch housing. Log took out a tire rod, welded it up with 1" angle iron. Carries a Bradco backhoe just fine, crawls thru the woods like a logging machine (fwd), about impossible to get stuck. When the river floods this tractor and cow cubes are the only way to get my cows to high land. It's perfect for fencing. Pulls an 8' Brillion stalk cutter without trouble. The Kubota is my chore tractor where as on a "real" farm I suppose a 656 would be a chore tractor and a 1086 would be the real tractor. Oh well.

What you can do with these in 4x4 and with a loader in my opinion just isn't possible with with a the old 30 horse 2wd ag tractors, except as others have mentioned tillage; they are light for tillage. If you pull a two bottom disc plow you need to have 4x4 on and it moves the back end of the tractor over. I have no weights or fluid in tires so maybe it isn't a fair analysis. My FIL has an L3250. He's replaced a water pump and a 3 pt rockshaft arm (pulling a stump at an angle with a box blade) His is 4 cyl, has about 2,000 hours.

I really like the GST trans, I probably wouldn't buy one with a hydro unless the ONLY thing I was going to do was cut hay. I don't like the fact that you can't operate them standing up, not enough room between steering wheel and seat to do that.

L3300 on Sunday, cut hay for about 4 hours with the JD #9, fuel gauge barely moved.

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JoshuaGA

05-20-2008 17:50:42




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
Lanse, really, take a look at it like this. You have a small light built tractor meant to mow and to run a loader. Your plowing with it. You would be much better off with a Ford style utility tractor, such as a Massey 2605 or John Deere 5103 since your dad has a perchant for new (That style tractor hasn't had any major improvements since the 2000 series Fords). Dont see why, Our Ford 601 Workmaster is one of the most reliable pieces of equipment we have, and plenty of power. You wont kill that. Oh, and I second you on Kubotas being light, because I see none doing heavy tillage. Heck, a 4WD Kubota M9540 at 85 horsepower weighs 5500 pounds, whereas a good tillage tractor would weigh at least 8500 to 9000 pounds. No thanks. And I do know about using a light tractor for heavy work. Massey Ferguson 399, 95 horse, 9000 pounds, water in both rear tires, heavycast rears, 4100 hours and it's rough and it has been taken care of and maintained. Not bashing it, it has paid its dues, but it is down to the point either I recondition it at $$$, I sell it and bring back our 1100 as a little more capable and semmingly more reliable than this, or I trade for new and larger framed re not bigger tractor. Will lose a friend if I sell, I spent many hours riding shotgun with dad, but still, I need a good tractor that can last under heavy tillage.

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Lanse

05-20-2008 17:56:28




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to JoshuaGA, 05-20-2008 17:50:42  
Yep, i know. Things worthless. If i had millions of dollars i would start my own compnay. Made here in the US, bare bones tractors, with pride of workmenship, no cabs, suspention seats, HST, etc. about 5 speed gear, heavy as can be, 25horse or so, 4wd, everything that a small tractor should be today.



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Chris in MO

05-20-2008 19:23:40




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 Re: Canned pineapple.... in reply to Lanse, 05-20-2008 17:56:28  
That would be a nice thing to try. But it probably won't market to anyone but small farmers who actually NEED to make a profit from their farming.

Years ago my economics professor told a story about pineapples. About the only pineapples available in most of the US were canned. Nowhere near as good quality as fresh, but you couldn't get them to market before they rotted.

Turn the clock forward a number of decades. Transportation and technology are vastly improved. Fresh pineapples could be made available to consumers for a fairly reasonable price. Guess what? Few people liked them. They tasted strange. They were just not what people were used to and had come to expect. Canned pineapples have a "tinny" taste from the can. Fresh pineapples don't.

Funny creatures, people are. They see bright, shiny new tractors for sale in the paper for what they consider to be cheap prices. They know little if anything about what is really valuable in a tractor, not having much seat time. Their neighbors or prospective neighbors use a certain type of tractor and seem to like them. In addition to which, these little machines drive a whole lot more like a car... not as much going on and not as much to keep track of. So they buy the tractor that seems "right". If they use it within the parameters of its strengths, all well and fine. When they start pushing the envelope, the envelope pushes back.

My 2 cents.

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coobie

05-20-2008 15:47:06




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  

lilnoki said: (quoted from post at 20:46:36 05/19/08) I'm getting tired of my problematic old gas tractors. I'm considering going newer, and diesel. From what I've heard the Kubota tractors are very reliable and good starting, even in cold weather. I found a 3300 and it says it has a four cylinder diesel. I thought most were 3 cylinder diesels? I've heard 3 cylinder diesels are very fuel efficient - is it true? What about this 4 cylinder?

Thanks
I just went threw this a short time ago.I looked at Mahindra 4110 (41 hp)Kubota 4240 (42hp) and Kioti Dk40 se (41.5hp)and a few other brands.I ended up buying the Kioti.Good luck.coobie

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Vacherie

05-20-2008 15:41:10




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
I have a 30.5 year old Kubota L245. It is the best tractor I have. I have Farmalls, Ford. and have had John Deeres. No oil leaks yet. It is light but serves my purpose. It uses 6 to 8 gallons per season cutting three acres plus miscellanous jobs. I have to admit it only has 803 hours.



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HCooke

05-20-2008 11:30:57




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
I have had a L3410 for 7 years. Has loader and hydrostatic trans. Absolutely no problems. Have only changed filters and fluids. Easy on fuel compared to gassers.



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jm.watkins

05-20-2008 11:03:32




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
HATE TO WADE INTO THIS.. SEEMS LIKE TRATITONAL FARMER REALLY HAS A STRONG OPINIO. THE REAL FACTS ARE JUST LOOK AT SALES IN THE NORTH AMERICAN MARKET. UNDER 100 H.P. LAST YEAR KUBOTA WAS SOMETHING LIKE 26.5% THAT IS MORE THAN JOHN DEER NEW HOLAND OR AGCIO .. IN THE COUNTY I LIVE IN THERE WAS 112 TRACTOR UNDER 100 HP SOLD LAST YEAR 76 OF THEM WERE KUBOTA. PEOPLE SWEAR BY THEM. THEY OFFER MORE VALUE FOR THE DOLLAR THAN ANYTHING OUT THERE.

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Luke S

05-20-2008 10:25:33




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
I currently have four of them and my neighbor has three. One of his used to be mine, I sold it to him when it was ten years old and it still had the original battery on it. I have never done anything but routine maintenence to mine. I am not a row crop farmer but I am a stock farmer and raise a lot of hay. We square bale and round bale in two different counties, I pull a 15" flex wing cutter, 12" no-till drill, and feed hay in the mud and snow all winter. To date, we have done nothing to any of them. Wish I could say the same for the so called superior 4000 and 5000 series Deere"s I have had and still have.

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OliverGuy

05-20-2008 09:08:32




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
We"re on our fifth one at my landscaping business. Usually trade them every three to four years with 1500+ hours on them. Have a 5740 HST right now and it"s awesome. Only problem was two tractors ago, had an issue with GST transmission, other than that they"ve been great tractors. Bought a M125 for the business and light farming and love it. Wow what a nice loader tractor. Sure seemed like a comparable JD was $15k more. They are made lighter than some tractors, they are not heavy duty tillage tractors. I wouldn"t be on my sixth tractor with more than 7,000 total hours on them if I didn"t like them. My 2 cents.

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Tradititonal Farmer

05-20-2008 09:40:45




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to OliverGuy, 05-20-2008 09:08:32  
If they are so good I'm curious to why you trade them at 1500hrs?Thats about the time a good tractor is just getting broke in good.



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OliverGuy

05-20-2008 18:36:03




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to Tradititonal Farmer, 05-20-2008 09:40:45  
That's about the time the next models come out with the new features and the resale starts to dip more. They do hold their value well though. I only have the one smaller tractor and skid loader in my business and they must work all day every day and I guess having one with fewer hours lets me sleep better knowing it will work for me tomorrow. I have mowers I let get to 5,000 plus hours, but I have back ups in case they go down. I've got a 52" walk behind with a 12.5hp Kawaski that's never been apart and has 8,000+ hours on it! I can't believe it, but it keeps chugging. Anyway, Kubota is a good tractor and I've put at least 7,000 hours on the ones we've had and been very happy. Gone from a little 19hp glorified garden tractor in the early nineties to this 5740 HST. Oh yeah, like the other fella said, I've never changed a battery also.

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thurlow

05-20-2008 08:59:44




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
I'd say they're just about as good as their reputation, 'though I've never owned or operated one; friend of mine has one (don't know the size or anything about model numbers); it's got a little less than 2000 hours and is shook all to pieces. (He does mowing and landscaping) He asked me if that was a lot of hours for a farm tractor. Told him I didn't really know; that the 4020 he was standing a few feet from had better than 16,000 hours on it.

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buickanddeere

05-20-2008 08:35:35




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
Light weight machines. Fuel efficiency is neither here nor there on under 100HP tractors used less than 200hrs per year.
$50-100 per year in the overall cost of owning and operating a tractor is not worth considering.
There are no "fuel hogs" out there on the market anyways with emissions legal engines.
What will burn extra fuel is a 75H engine doing 25HP work.



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Tom from Ontario

05-20-2008 07:46:16




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
Have heard they are outstanding lawn mowers and utility tractors. Some of the cash croppers had them and with heavy tillage and long hours, they just dissolved. Transmissions collapsed, front ends disintegrated, etc. Well made, but way too light. Small farm, careful drivers, they sound good.



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pair-a-dice farms

05-20-2008 07:43:51




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
I've got a M9000 FWA with a loader with about 600 hours on it. I use it for cleaning chicken houses and that is pretty hard work. It's not too bad on fuel. The REA has several just like mine that they use to clear power line right of ways. Those tractors are not used they're abused. The foreman told me that they have had no problems, that's why I bought mine.



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INCase

05-20-2008 07:25:12




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
Dad has a 25hp diesel HST model. Loves it but has had some problems. Front axle housing where the axle transitions to the wheel has busted on him and he has had engine oil leaks (that is NOT acceptable). Its got a few hours on it but by no means alot and has had an easy life. Its a great lawn mower. Mow as fast as you want and it does a dencent job. He doesn"t do much other heavy work with it. Shop around.

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hay

05-20-2008 06:17:24




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
a guy i know has a kubota and he just loves it. he says he wish they were available when he bought his first tractor in the early 1970's. his kubota is a cabover model and it is used in his hay business.



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RodInNS

05-20-2008 06:00:31




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
Pound for pound they're as good as any tractor out there. Just remember to compare them on the scale as well as the dyno...
100 hp engines in 50 hp chassis does not a 100 hp tractor make. It makes a fast 50 hp tractor. Keep that in context and the Kubota will last a long time.

Rod



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kmcampbe

05-20-2008 05:41:54




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
Mine has 450 + hours so far and is used and abused, no problems so far



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RustyFarmall

05-20-2008 05:13:36




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
The local dealer here has been selling Kubotas for at least 15 years, maybe more more like 20. Those tractors sell just about as fast as he can get them on the lot, and very rarely have I ever seen one in his shop for repairs. I would recommend a Kubota to anyone.



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gene bender

05-20-2008 05:09:28




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
Lots of good little tractors around but the big picture how long has the dealer been there as none of them arent any good without a dealer service. Seems like now everyone is selling something and got a couple green kids in the back trying to fix em. Go find an old dealer who has been around.



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Lanse

05-20-2008 05:00:46




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
I dont know about a 3300, but the B3030 we bought last year is a disaster. The god aweful HST has been nothing but a pain the whole time, and right now is louder then the engine. It jerks in and out of range which is a minor problem and apperentally needs to be gone for a week for some "ajustments". The cab is remarkablely crampt as well as loud and dusty, worse then being outside the tractor. It gets no traction and you have to use the loader on dry uneven ground because the differential lock doesnt like to kick in. The engine is VERY crampt, changed the oil took me close to an hour to find everything. It guzzles unbelievble amounts of fuel, 3 gallons per hour at 1/2 throttle and no load. That machine has got to be the biggest waste of money ive ever seen, and the biggest mistake weve made. Stay the hell away from kubota

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Luke S

05-20-2008 13:36:12




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to Lanse, 05-20-2008 05:00:46  
Lanse, I'd say most of your problems with the HST have to do with all that plowing your did. I don't care what brand you are talking about, any tractor that size with a Hydro trans is gonna have problems if you are going to pull a plow through the soil with it. A B3030 is made to have a mid-mount mower on it and cut grass, not plowing.



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Lanse

05-20-2008 16:04:10




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to Luke S, 05-20-2008 13:36:12  
why yes, a true yuppie tractor it is. The dealer said that a 2-12 plow wouldnt hurt anything, yet about an acre in it started jumping ranges



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Alex-41JDb

05-20-2008 17:12:51




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to Lanse, 05-20-2008 16:04:10  
Easy there there Lanse we know your reputation as a violent tractor abuser.lol Your not using your machine for what it was made for, your using as a loader/tillage tractor. That is meant for mowing and carrying mulch and momma"s daisys around the yard. I am buy no means a kubota guy but use one at work and it performs just fine.



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farmer boy

05-20-2008 09:01:39




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to Lanse, 05-20-2008 05:00:46  
Yes. Kubota"s are as good as they say Buy something with a gear transmission though.
I gotta laugh at Lanse though. He asked several times before he bought that tractor and most replies were negative regarding cab size and price. Now he says it was a waste of money and the cab is small and cramped. Hydrostatic transmissions are stupid as far as I"m concerned. I don"t trust them the same way I don"t trust CVT in tractors. Gears have proven themselves over and over again as durable and efficent and yet people have to keep looking for something better. Your money I guess but you should have looked for something a bit bigger without a cab.

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Lanse

05-20-2008 13:23:20




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to farmer boy, 05-20-2008 09:01:39  
Now thats a little offenceive. Sure, people do stupid things, but my dad insisted on brand new instead of something old and reliable since if its not off the showroom its been banged up and abused and worthless apperentally. The cab was nice then, gets smaller every day. The transmission is always getting louder and more of a pain. Got to laugh at farmer boy though, apperentally thinking hes better and smarter then everyone else

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farmer boy

05-20-2008 15:59:49




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to Lanse, 05-20-2008 13:23:20  
Sorry If I offended you Lanse, I got to thinking after I wrote that and thought your Dad may have had quite a bit of say in the matter. I'm just stating my opinion and that is I would never buy an HST for anything but mowing a lawn. I would also never buy a CVT for anything but haying. I just don't trust them. I was just saying that what was said to happen did happen although you are probably feeling that now. Mistakes make good lessons. Your's was expensive. Again, sorry if I offended you.

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JT

05-20-2008 19:19:27




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to farmer boy, 05-20-2008 15:59:49  
There is a lot of HST used in a lot of big stuff and are very useful for a lot of hours. I think a lot of combines use HST don't they? If you do not buy the correct thing for what you are using it for, none will hold up, a small, underpowered gear drive tractor will also have premature transmission and clutch failures.
Jim



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Lanse

05-20-2008 16:27:15




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to farmer boy, 05-20-2008 15:59:49  
Thats ok, its hard to express how youre saying something on a site like this. This was not my $22k i wouldnt blow it off like that. My dad insists that anytihng not showroom new is a waste of money (he says i'll never get this allis fixed) and that this cab is somehow safer then a regular ROPS but i dont know how. I woulda bought a ford 2000 or such instead of a $13k new holland replaced with this $22k kubota and this will probabally need replaced when the transmission goes boom. Right now i wear ear protection in there when doing anything that involves any real work. The quality of these things is remarkable-just horrible, but it aint my money. Sure, coulda bought one $3000 tractor instead of $35,000 and counting. But all that old crap will kill you if you look at it wrong and new is so much better in so many ways, right???? I really feel sorry for him, all this is a waste of money. Looking at a holland TC30 with a gearshift (used) to replace the kubota. This is incredable i wonder how kubota is still in buissness. That little holland was a great machine and i plowed with that (1-10) just fine and it never had any of these problems. My uncle hays close to 700 acres and most of his equiptment is holland and he loves it. I wish we coulda never bought this kubota, a huge waste of money. That tractor outside looks like a burning pile of hundred dollar bills in the driveway. What a damn shame

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Luke S

05-21-2008 05:55:46




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to Lanse, 05-20-2008 16:27:15  
Lanse, I have been nice to you all along, but I have to say it after that last post. For you to say Kubota quality is poor is purely foolish. You are a 15 year old kid who has experience with one Kubota, and you are using a lawn mower for pulling a 2-12"s. If your dealer really told you that he is as crazy as you are.



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36 coupe

05-20-2008 05:59:44




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to Lanse, 05-20-2008 05:00:46  
Read an article where a mechanic said the differentials were built too light and cost 3 grand to fix.A fellow was tilling next door with one, a 42 hp .It does look lightly built for 42 hp,Axles and housings,wheels and lug bolts look scrawny next too my old 32 hp Ford.Lots of junk that you dont need on the Kubota.They do have steel fenders, very light gauge steel, better than plastic fenders.I have a strong feeling that we could still be buying US built tractors if suckers hadnt bought all these imports.In any case I cant afford a new tractor so I take good care of the Ford 640 I bought for 1300.00 15 years ago.It does all work I need at low cost for fuel.I expect my tractor will wear out parts and I fix what needs fixing.

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Lanse

05-20-2008 16:32:50




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to 36 coupe, 05-20-2008 05:59:44  
Everything is too light today.



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cj3b_jeep

05-20-2008 04:53:48




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
Like any other tractor, they have particular things that can go wrong, but in my opinion, they're equal to JD, but about 10-15% less. They make both 3 cylinders and 4 and either would be easy on fuel. I'd also look at the small Agco line. The St35 is a nice little machine and runs several thousand cheaper than a comparable JD.



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gun guru

05-20-2008 02:25:18




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
I have seen pictures on this site of busted steering rods on the Kubotas, but all tractors have a few lemons out there. They are a good machine, but so is Deere, CIH, CNH, and Agco/Massey.



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Tradititonal Farmer

05-19-2008 23:07:06




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
Compared to JD,Yanmar and AGCO they are inferior in just about every way.in my opinion AGCO is making the best small tractor out there now.



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Lumpy

05-19-2008 22:28:18




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to lilnoki, 05-19-2008 20:46:36  
My 3300 was a 3 cyl. Very easy on fuel. Is this GST model? If so, you will like it. Mine had wide idustrial tires on it, which was a good setup for mowing the yard.



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Ken Macfarlane

05-20-2008 19:10:27




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 Re: Kubota tractors - are they as good as their reputation in reply to Lumpy, 05-19-2008 22:28:18  
Pound for pound great tractors, too many people forget to look at weight. JD is getting in the light hp game too with the 5603, 100 hp in 6000 lbs or so.

Great hay tractors, if you put too much plow on them and ballast them up to make it pull it, they have the hp to tear themselves up.



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