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jose bagge

05-04-2008 07:38:14




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I think it was "Old" who had talked previously about bagging up manure and selling it roadside. My 11 year old daughter and her BF bagged up some aged horse manure yesterday into feed bags she had saved, made a sign and put it on the side of the road- $2.00 a bag, 3 for $5.

she sold six bags yesterday evening- One guy in a Z-3 BMW ragtop stopped, bought a bag and put it in the passenger seat!




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JML755

05-05-2008 07:05:33




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to jose bagge, 05-04-2008 07:38:14  
jose bagge,

FYI,

see link to article about recycling company picking up manure for free. Many horse owners on small acreage here in Michigan will PAY to have the manure hauled away. Most of them don't have the time/energy/equipment to compost it.

http://www.mlive.com/environment/index.ssf/2008/04/genesee_power_station_acceptin.html



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dave2

05-04-2008 23:49:47




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to jose bagge, 05-04-2008 07:38:14  
Good going! People really kill me..... .. It's been so wet here that I couldn't hall anything away from one of the stall/paddocks so I've got a pile about 2ft deep 6 ft wide and 40 or so feet long to get rid of. People ask me all the time for horse manure and I say take as much as you want or I'll deliver it. Never hear from them again. Went to check on the horses I keep there one evening and there was a guy looking at the pile, I asked him if he wanted some and he left. Bet if I had it bagged up with a coffee can setting alongside, I'd have an empty manure pile AND an empty coffee can.

BTW: Have you ever bagged it in plastic bags? Wondering if it would be OK, or blow up if I bagged and stacked it.

Dave

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Billy NY

05-05-2008 05:51:42




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to dave2, 05-04-2008 23:49:47  
There are some things to consider when offering this stuff, make enough room to fool with it, and compost it, keep the nitrogen up, check the temp of the pile, and make sure the pile does not dry out, and stays hot, it has to have some moisture at all times. Plan ahead with it, so that when the season comes, usually spring and fall, it's ready.

When it's raw, or not fully composted and used in a garden, it can rob nitrogen to continue the composting process, plants may reflect this. If properly composted, it's excellent material. You can add sand or organics to the mix, depends on what you want. It's also important to consider what you feed, if the hay quality is less than desirable and they pick through it, mash the rest in, that adds to the compost time, hay grasses/stalks is just more carbon to break down, it chokes up the material, might make it less desirable.


Our neighor has their compost analyzed at Cornell, seemingly a very intelligent fellow, I've discussed this manure compost with him and learned a few things. Had I the equipment, when our place was full, it was producing a solid 1000 + cubic yards per year, you can't ignore that revenue potential, it would be profitable and I have another high profile lot on a main road where I could sell all of it, might take 2 years to pay off the equipment and show substantial profits, but that's really not too long.

I've posted this photo before, but this material shown was some really nice stuff, the bedding at that time was actually oak sawdust, so it took time to break down. I'm not so sure what the deal was with the oak, never saw it, worried me about resiratory or other issues with the horses, but was no problem. When I was a kid it was always some type of pine sawdust, that breaks down finer and quicker. Bedding, and hay have a lot to do with it, coordinate by using the best materials/feed you can there, it helps a lot on the other end. I firmly believe a good quality compost can be made to offset operation costs, it sells around here no problem. Once made, it does not go bad either, we had a lot of manure '03-'05, had I the equipment to do it right, could have made a lot of compost

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johndeeregene

05-04-2008 18:56:53




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to jose bagge, 05-04-2008 07:38:14  
i would like to make a comment on this subject, we have alot of cow shot here, great fertilizer, now the warning. when you are being nice an putting some on your wifes garden ALWAYS get off the tractor that you are dumping, an spreading with an look to see how deep you are putting it. from the seat it didnt look to deep, but after i had the whole garden covered i got off. 6 in deep. after lettin it dry, was maybe a little to fresh also, disked it 6 times, then tilled it a dozen times, yes a 12 times. finally got it mixed it. but nothing grew but weeds an they didnt grow very good. Her garden stuff dang near jumped out of the ground an then turned colors an died. she was not real happy with me that year, havent put any on for a couple of years now. johndeeregene

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gun guru

05-04-2008 14:10:32




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to buickanddeere, 05-04-2008 11:36:40  
Yep, the US congress has been giving it away free for a looong time, shoveling it on top of us. In the form of promises.



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huntingreen

05-04-2008 09:27:19




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to jose bagge, 05-04-2008 07:38:14  
I knew a guy who was selling chicken manure on ebay. Green Tea



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Fawteen

05-04-2008 09:10:28




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to jose bagge, 05-04-2008 07:38:14  
I compost all my animal waste plus yard, garden and kitchen waste. I'm far enough ahead of the game that I can compost it until it's completely cooled off and broken down, and then stockpile it over the winter.

By spring, you can't hardly tell it from dirt. I screen it through 1/4" hardware cloth into a 5 gallon bucket and then bag it in sandbags. I stack the bags on a pallet in the front yard with a sign and a coffee can. So far this year, I've sold 100 bags @ $2.50/bag.

Not bad for something I'd have to get rid of somehow anyway...

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jose bagge

05-04-2008 11:32:41




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to Fawteen, 05-04-2008 09:10:28  
Yes, it was you that mentioned it in a post and I told my 11 year old- she put 4 bags out before church and all were gone when we got back- and 8 bucks in her coffee can. She's got 4 more out there now...



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El Toro

05-04-2008 09:06:53




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to jose bagge, 05-04-2008 07:38:14  
The mushroom growers in my area would like to have all the horse manure they can get. I have bought loads of their mushroom soil when they clean out the mushroom houses and put it on the garden. Hal



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Lanse

05-04-2008 08:28:51




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to jose bagge, 05-04-2008 07:38:14  
now theres an idea :-)



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Billy NY

05-04-2008 08:04:23




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to jose bagge, 05-04-2008 07:38:14  
That's awesome, I posted a photo of the material I made a while back, and even after the tribal elders at our stable balked at the tractor useage, space used, and unsightly piles, the first load sold, filled a 3/4 pick up truck, maybe a yard or so, I handed over the cash, sure changed their tune, but prior to, I was the redheaded stepchild (figure of speech) wasting my time. I saw it differently having been an equipment operator I am the master of the loader bucket ( LOL well in my mind anyway - just an arrogant fool ;) and made quite a bit of material with a tiny tractor.

Compost it right, keep the hay out of it as much as possible, check the temp and let it cook to kill the weed seed, it's a great way to generate revenue. I calculated based on the manure production, best case scenario was $50,000 in gross revenue, and hey it's positive cash flow to offset bedding, feed, hay and operating costs. I had to stop, I really need a 920, 930 Cat or equivalent size loader, and a newer dump to deliver small loads, our neighbor used to get all of ours and pay his land taxes, on their place, think it was 80-100 acres or so. Tribal elders think differently than I at our place, but that small business experience will last a lifetime for your daughter at yours.

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jose bagge

05-04-2008 08:22:42




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 If you are MOLB... in reply to Billy NY, 05-04-2008 08:04:23  
"...Master of the Loader Bucket" , that must make me the HHP (Human Hitching Post)



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Billy NY

05-04-2008 08:43:26




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 Re: If you are MOLB... in reply to jose bagge, 05-04-2008 08:22:42  
Hey that works, kind of the HNIC as depicted in the 1989 movie "Lean On Me" with Morgan Freeman as the new HS principal, (great movie) but when faced with too much manure, the MOLB has to spring into action, and you need at least one MOLB on every farm ;). I used the diff lock on that little 33HP toy and pushed up a stock pile that was 30 feet high, like one would do with a dozer, never took a photo of it though, manure seemed to be stable to run on, though I used the rops and seatbelt at all times, it eventually got too much, too high, ramp narrowing, just no room to turn the manure over, went back up that giant ramp of a stockpile I made, pushed a whole bunch back down and gave it to my neighbor, to reduce the pile, the jumbo jet size flies that came out, were the largest flies I've ever seen. The help would push directly into the pile then run out of room, I'd have tried it with a lawn tractor if it had a loader on it, little at a time, just darned lucky I kept that thing serviced and took my time, no harm done, stress relief making compost, I'd do it full time if I could.

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jose bagge

05-04-2008 08:22:34




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 If you are MOLB... in reply to Billy NY, 05-04-2008 08:04:23  
"...Master of the Loader Bucket" , that must make me the HHP (Human Hitching Post)



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Greg_Ky

05-04-2008 07:55:28




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to jose bagge, 05-04-2008 07:38:14  
Are you still looking for a recipe for your project from a couple of weeks or so ago?



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jose bagge

05-04-2008 08:20:09




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to Greg_Ky, 05-04-2008 07:55:28  
YEP-
the "project that dare not mention it's name on this site".
I've built the equipment, but have nothing to cook



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Dave from MN

05-04-2008 07:43:52




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 Re: Manure sales.. in reply to jose bagge, 05-04-2008 07:38:14  
Good for her. We are gonna start composting our chicken manure and fall leaves( only a few tons of the chick poop), see what it tests's at the following spring and try and sell it at the local fleet store. I have to check into what ever rules and reg's there may be, but I figured give it a try. People are always stopping or calling for some. I hope your young busines lady has found herself a good market. Give her "that a girl " for us.

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